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But we've already established that time is a location.
How exactly has that been established? Maybe I'm the one who's confused now but I didn't see anything even close to that in any journals or peer reviews articles.
IroncladFT
peter vlar
So if we were standing on a planet "15 billion light years" from us and looked at the earth, would we be looking to the past, the future, or as i said, looking at something that has no time associated with it as it was made the same day as the planet we were standing on?
You're seeing what that planet looked like 15 billion years ago.
OK, so again confused. If I am looking at a planet at the edge of the universe from earth, science says we are looking into the past towards the origin of the universe, basically the immediate reminisce of the big bang theory..approx 15 billion years ago. But your saying if someone is standing on that planet looking back at earth, they too are viewing a planet just as old as the universe too???
www.space.com...
So both planets are the same age, even though from one your looking into the past and the other your looking at a place equal to your own? Wouldn't they be looking at a younger planet, since i can't understand how two planets can be the same age 15 billion years apart in distance when trying to view it from science's point of view. I can however understand it if they were both created at the same time and just happen to have a large distance between them.edit on 0Thu, 06 Mar 2014 04:46:05 -0600201432014-03-06T04:46:05-06:00Thursdayam06MarchCST by IroncladFT because: oops
www.sciencemag.org...
www.spacedaily.com...
AnAbsoluteCreation
But we've already established that time is a location.
How exactly has that been established? Maybe I'm the one who's confused now but I didn't see anything even close to that in any journals or peer reviews articles.
No confusion necessary.
I say time is a location because a certain distance is related to the time it took to see the light it omitted.
AAC
Thus, we are not just seeing what it looked like 8 billion years ago, we are seeing where it was in space 8 billion years ago.
Good timing on this reply because it ties into my response to your question about greys and time travel. Like the 8 billion year old object in my example, even if the greys were from 20,000 years in the future the earth will likewise not be in the same position it currently inhabits therefore the hypothetical time travelling greys would not be just from a future time but also a slightly different area of space.
If that were all actually the case it may explain why they are using space craft to travel backwards because to go backwards in time they would also have to move locations in physical space as well as move through time.
We could actually figure out where the earth would be at that point if we knew the actual time they originated from just like we can determine the precession of constellations both past and future. I'm not saying I buy into the greys as us from the future but it certainly is a fun thought experiment.
No one needs you to Answer this... And you're not funny. If you think that my intellect is in question, I would gladly love to debate you on any topic of your choice. If I lose, I will close my account to ATS. Please try me. And no, you can't debate with silly memes.
AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by Pistoche
Great analogy. I guess I didn't see the Big Bang splattering against the concrete wall with the pieces going in opposition directions. We are traveling in the suns orbit whilst the sun travels through the galaxy. I assume the galaxy is also traveling somewhere. What direction is it traveling? If everything exploded into a brick wall, and everything was traveling in a direction, something has to give or you travel back in the direction You already came.
Again, I'm being honest because it looks like I'm missing a piece of the puzzle that's obviously not spoken about much.
Thanks for the reply.
AAC
CaptainBeno
reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation
No one needs you to Answer this... And you're not funny. If you think that my intellect is in question, I would gladly love to debate you on any topic of your choice. If I lose, I will close my account to ATS. Please try me. And no, you can't debate with silly memes.
Oh dear? Bad use of grammar and incorrect use of capitals. I don't think I would want to argue with a chap like yourself.
You're far more intellectual than me.
Please accept my apologies.
Now, can we move on and finish berating your post?
CaptainBeno
Off Topic but as invited by the OP.
Ben Saul states that both administrative law and human rights law commonalities in their ‘aim to restrain arbitrary and unreasonable government action and in doing so, help to protect the right of the individual.’*
Discuss with reference to how the protection of human rights has become a basis for expanding the reach of administrative law.
Please note you should focus on developments in administrative law in Australia and you should not use the essay as a platform for discussing whether or not Australia should have a Bill of Rights.
*B. Saul, ‘Australian administrative law: the human rights dimension’ in Groves, M. & H. Lee (eds) Australian Administrative Law: Fundamentals, Principles and Doctrines. 2007. Melbourne: Cambridge University Press. pp. 50-76, 51-2.
As you may be able to tell from the question, I'm Australian.
You have 2 days and are limited to 1700 words.
Off you go dear chap...........
reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation
Interestingly enough, I think I'm going to be writing your essay homework for first year law school FOR YOU!
AnAbsoluteCreation
Pardon my question, but objects of light reflect in all directions, so why could we not look forward?
game over man
Great thread OP! S&F! I really like your outside the box way of thinking.
Fundamentally I think you can talk about seeing into the future but you run into the problem of testing it on a human for example, say with a mirror...the mirror displaying the future would be predicting the human's movement, and I don't know how someone could explain that.
IroncladFT
OK, so again confused.
But your saying if someone is standing on that planet looking back at earth, they too are viewing a planet just as old as the universe too??? So both planets are the same age, even though from one your looking into the past and the other your looking at a place equal to your own?...
AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by Bedlam
If I said "expansion forward" instead of forward change your perspective?
AAC