posted on Nov, 24 2004 @ 12:30 AM
This is an experiment in Philisophical Communication for any and all who'd like to try. Nobody will be found to be Right or Wrong by the answers
they give. It is relatively quick and easy so I hope others will give it a shot. (It was either overlooked or avoided by others in the original
thread for reasons unknown to me. I've made some attempts to clearify certain sections in case it was too confusing as well.)
First, Clear your mind of Any Preconcieved Ideas about 'Atheism & God and any Logical/Illogical arguements for or against them'.
Next, Read the following sections, allowing each one to add a part to their collectively similar Idea & Overall Point. (Re-Read them as much as is
Then, Give a short yet Complete Answer to the Questions at the end.
That's it, Start when ready...
1: of or associated with or requiring the use of the mind;
"the triumph of the rational over the animal/natural side of man"
2: having its source in or being guided by the intellect
(distinguished from experience or emotion)
3: Based on scientific knowledge or theory rather than practical observation; logical.
4: Mathematics: One that can be expressed without the use of a radical sign, or in exact parts of unity.
1: Not according to reason;foolish.
2: Mathematics: real but not expressible as the quotient of two integers, or by fraction
1: One who subverts convention or orthodoxy or varies from social conformity in order to reveal spiritual or moral truth:
2: of the common powers of understanding; a natural.
3: from Latin word follis:meaning “a bag or sack, a large inflated ball, a pair of bellows.”
The History of the Fool Card - Tarot
In the antique decks, the Fool is almost always unnumbered, even though the rest of the major arcana bear roman numerals I through XXI.
There are exceptions: two old decks label the Fool with a "0" and "XXII". So although the Fool is almost always completely
apart from the sequence of trumps in the historic decks, there is historic precedent for regarding it as the lowest trump and as the highest
In the game of tarot, the Fool has a unique role, similar to that of a "wild card" (Joker) but different in interesting ways. Whereas a wild
card assumes the identity of a card to player would like to have, helping the holder win the hand, the Fool is an "excuse"--it can be played at
any time, but it never beats any of the other cards. Playing the Fool is like momentarily exempting yourself from the rules of the game.
The fool or simpleton was unabashedly mocked and scorned on the one hand, but on the other hand became a vehicle for many profound ironies. In
Shakespeare, it is the Fool who speaks the most profound truth. And the man in poverty represented the Franciscan ideal of godliness. So, in a
delightful reversal reminiscent of the Roman Saturnalia, the Fool becomes both wiser and holier than the Pope!
Of the trumps, only three are worth points in the game: The Fool, the Magician, and the World. But whereas the World beats every other card in the
deck, the Fool beats none! It is a very strange thing, really, a card that brings the holder a great reward, but does so by losing! A card
exempt from the usual rules, and a card you can never lose to another player.
The Fool makes a profound statement, it seems to me, dropped in amongst the kings, queens, and powers of the cosmos. All the other cards are in
competition with each other in the game; each player hopes their card will "triumph" over those of others, and much distress results if a valuable
card is beaten and taken. But the Fool alone is not in competition; he's outside the game. In every hand he appears once, somewhere,
unpredictably, never taking anything and never being taken. He just is. Total humility bestows invulnerability.
Ok, that's it. Now take a moment to reflect on what you've read.
Then with the above material in mind answer the following: (All of them are Optional. Once again, there's no Right or Wrong answer. I'm
interested in what this means to others & why, that's it!)
1.) Who is The Fool?
2.) What's the reasoning behind The Fool being '0, 22, or No Number'?
3.) Is Theism 'Rational or Irrational'? Explain?
4.) Is Atheism 'Rational or Irrational'? Explain?
5.) 'Proof' For or Against 'God' is? (Rational/Irrational, Foolish/Reasonable, Possible/Impossible, Knowledge/Experience, Other)
6.) Any other comments you'd like to add about what you thought about this experiment. If it did or did not make sense to you, if it was too easy or
difficult, if you think you know the point of it or where you've read similar ideas to these, etc...