reply to post by Trueman
Its really awful to watch this sort of crap, which they call journalism. Obviously, facts play no role for these two drama queens, who discovered
better pay check from somewhere else.
We know Ukraine:
- was an interal political war zone for rivaling oligarchs, who played the country as they liked
- current "prime minister" is a doll for one of those - as was the president Yanukowich for another - but he quit and wanted to get rid of those
oligarchs! Exactly what Putin has done in Russia for oligarchs (took them out from political life).
- western interest is to push the geo-politial demarcation maximally towards the east, and Ukraine is the battle ground for both EU and Polish
interests (western part of Ukraine used to be Polish), as well as US
- Crimea was part of Russia until president Chruchev in the 1960s, while being totally drunk, "donated" the peninsula to the then Ukraine Soviet
Republic. BUT- this does not change the fact, this peninsula has been for centuries part of Russia. Today - for the same reason - it is an AUTONOMIC
state, formally part of Ukraine - but with great Russian concessions.
- There is an AGREEMENT in place between Russia and Ukraine, allowing Russian military presence (quite large such) in the area of this autonomic
state. And it is within this agreement, as the Russia is currently acting.
- there was a COUP, which resulted in something which IMMEDIATELLY was approved by EU and USA - against all logic. The democratically elected
president and government was kicked out, by a rioting mass - and suddenly THAT is called democratic leadership, and promoted by EU & USA ?
- the coup started from demonstrations deviced by oligarchs to reap more money from EU vs Russia, as the demonstrations were directed to bring
pressure at the on-going Ukrainian-Russian trade negotiations. Which then got Ukrainian president's disapproval, and he dismissed the whole EU
approach. This irritated bunch of oligarchs, who setup the coup.
Russia's reaction is really well deviced. They act within limits of existing agreements. Note that. They have agreed number of troops on Crimea, and
they are within the autonomous area. This is not an invasion - but works withing the Russian-Ukrainian existing agreements! But, this cooles down the
Ukrainian internal rivals, to think tad more the big picture.
So, what we have here in Ukraine, is a twisting of power, by local Ukrainian oligarchs, who just outplayed they cards, and created a worse mess than
ever. Russians are not invading the country, but cooling those morans down. A lot of noice for nothing. Then again, US and EU as well as NATO, are
just taking advantage of this messy situation, to play their geo-political interests further, trying to get cold war back on track, and replace the
inconvenient war on terror. But that is then another story.
edit on 5-3-2014 by deckdel because: (no reason given)