Facebook and Bloomberg look to limit free speech on guns

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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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I know that Facebook is already well known as trying to limit your 1st amendment to free speech and I also know most of you are aware of Bloomberg's hysterical almost demonic pursuit of the elimination of private gun ownership but now the two are teaming up.

It appears that all gun fan pages and pro second amendment pages are going to be targeted. Facebook has not made the move to do so yet but they have stated they are looking at it seriously.

I feel this is yet another move towards making the psychological change to "guns are bad" in America that the leftist groups are aiming for.

Is it not time to stop using Facebook if you have not already!? (I stopped using facebook about three years ago and have never looked back).


Facebook is currently working with two anti-gun groups to further restrict firearm discussions on its various pages in a move that will likely lead to the outright censorship of gun topics throughout the social media site.

After Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Moms Demand Action spent the past month pressuring Facebook to censor gun-themed fan pages, the company finally agreed to reconsider its current policies, according to the anti-gun publication "Venture Beat."


I know, I know its Infowars but....link: www.infowars.com...


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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:25 PM
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Never joined farcebook, never will
with that crap, the govt doesnt HAVE to track you, youre doing the job FOR them....



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:26 PM
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m.washingtonexaminer.com...

Not so fast
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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:26 PM
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Then they should block all the pro police and pro army pages too. Those guys love guns!
Not to even mention that Bloomberg is constantly surrounded by armed goons
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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:27 PM
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Free speech and right to bear arms down, 25 amendments to go.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:32 PM
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Free speech wouldn't apply.

FaceBook is private property, owned wholly by FaceBook.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:33 PM
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TiedDestructor
m.washingtonexaminer.com...

Not so fast
edit on CST27America/Chicago5America/Chicago2731Wed, 05 Mar 2014 17:27:27 -0600000000 by TiedDestructor because: info added


awesome post....thanks for that update.

There is still the issue that they are making it an 18+ year old thing though.....treating it like it is porn or something "bad or taboo"....this still feeds into their paradigm shift that they are trying to invoke



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:34 PM
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peck420
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Free speech wouldn't apply.

FaceBook is private property, owned wholly by FaceBook.


true ... but.... gmail is private so should they be able to tell you that you can't e-mail anything about guns?



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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I completely agree. A compromise isn't a win. Erosion.......



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:41 PM
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UxoriousMagnus

peck420
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Free speech wouldn't apply.

FaceBook is private property, owned wholly by FaceBook.


true ... but.... gmail is private so should they be able to tell you that you can't e-mail anything about guns?


They could. But people would probably stop using them. Free speech relates to government not private enterprise.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:43 PM
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Facebook is a virus.

But the rest of the internet isn't any better. Tried to make a new yahoo user ID today and found out you can't do it without a phone number that can receive texts. As if they're getting my number. Invasive and collecting collecting collecting every fact about you in any way they can. For what purpose? Truly frightening stuff that they already have the younger generations convinced is business as usual. Most barely even thing about the consequences and ramification.

I think at this point I'd give all my big bucks to the person who could wipe me out of every database known to man.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:45 PM
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There is no such thing as free speech on privately owned and run websites or tv channels.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:48 PM
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boncho

UxoriousMagnus

peck420
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Free speech wouldn't apply.

FaceBook is private property, owned wholly by FaceBook.


true ... but.... gmail is private so should they be able to tell you that you can't e-mail anything about guns?


They could. But people would probably stop using them. Free speech relates to government not private enterprise.


I get that....just saying that there is some expectation of privacy and as a public forum....they should not dip their toes in this area....so again.....next Verizon could start dropping your calls because they hear you talking about guns?

but I do get where you are coming from



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:00 PM
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stargatetravels
There is no such thing as free speech on privately owned and run websites or tv channels.


The thing that pisses people off is the tolerance of the subject until some self-righteous/ignorant organization complains. Their views which reflect the minority are exalted above the majority because of sensationalized subject matter.

That's part of the problem in this country. Minorities rule it.

Now go feel bad for them. It's for the "victims" you know? All horse #.

Rant over



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:04 PM
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UxoriousMagnus
true ... but.... gmail is private so should they be able to tell you that you can't e-mail anything about guns?


That would depend entirely on the EULA you agreed to when you signed up...



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:14 PM
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dashen
Not to even mention that Bloomberg is constantly surrounded by armed goons

Ohhhhh ... but that's oh-so okay ... [/sarc]

The hypocrisy of these guys, "Do as I say ... and if you can afford it ... you can do as I do."



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:14 PM
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I get that....just saying that there is some expectation of privacy and as a public forum....they should not dip their toes in this area....so again.....next Verizon could start dropping your calls because they hear you talking about guns?

but I do get where you are coming from


Where private companies cross the line is if they fail to disclose certain things that they do or flat out lie (fraud). A new spin is that certain companies are (too big to fail) or too big to do anything about anything, and if you wanted to switch to a competitor instead, they don't exist anymore. (Meanwhile the corporation has taken advantage of laws they helped create to get in the position they're in).

Or work in collusion with government to bypass certain rights. Since private corps are the size that they are, and the line between them is blurrier and blurrier (campaign funding, etc.) it is starting to become worrisome. Especially with deals made to collect data, or by sub contractors asked to do things government cant.

In any case, god knows what "the corporation" is going to look like in 50-100 years from now.

Will it bring on the end of the world? Probably not. Mostly change the face of it. But people are shifting their worries to other things. The ideas that were of fundamental importance in the past are slipping away and new ones are taking form.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:14 PM
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It warms my heart to see MAIG and MDA view a half-hearted disclaimer as a "win."

Almost as much as this:


Members of the Massachusetts chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America tried deliver a petition with more than 12,000 signatures at Staples headquarters in Framingham on Tuesday morning to Staples' CEO but were asked to leave the property.

The organization did deliver the signatures to Staples security.
Patch.com

No corporate PR people. Just security guards asking them to GTFO. And only a paltry 12,000 signatures. How many of that minute number were printed off of online petition pages?

These 21st Century Temperance Movement folks are fading faster than Bloombergs MAIG bus tour did. Anybody remember that? All this hubub and drum beating and they made it to half a dozen cities and managed to rally two hundred people total.

They still have their glorious Starbucks triumph though which essentially amounts to "dont ask dont tell." Funny that moms would view mandatory ignorance as a win in their favor. I wonder if these same moms avoid talking ot their kids about sex and use terms like "wee wee" and "hoo hoo" well into their childrens thirties.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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gmail is private


I'm sorry to break this to you, but, no it's not. Google is just as guilty.

Think of it like work email. Everything you do and say is watched, collected, saved, and may be used against you in a court of law.

Just make the assumption that anything you do online is NOT private. Someone, somewhere, is seeing every bit of it, and it IS being stored. Saved. We have been told this. No warrant is necessary.

The same goes for your phone. Especially cell phones. If I want to have a private, well somewhat private converstation, I use a landline.

If I want a totally private conversation, it is in a room after the cellphone batteries have been removed, and left in another room, and the room I use has NO electronics. Not even self flushing toilets or motion sensed water faucets. No electronics. Not smoke alarms, sprinklers, fire alarms. Then, with white noise, and at a whisper.

Then again, my need to have conversations as such are extremely rare.

Not even outdoors is safe, in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night.

Yes, you have the right to privacy. It's gone. Assume that as fact. Now, knowing this, never, ever, EVER, write, email, or otherwise textualize anything you wouldn't mind your mother, wife, husband, children, or the police reading.Forever.

Think I am paranoid? That's fine. Bet I won't end up jailed over anything I thought was private communications.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:56 PM
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Libertygal
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gmail is private


I'm sorry to break this to you, but, no it's not. Google is just as guilty.

Think of it like work email. Everything you do and say is watched, collected, saved, and may be used against you in a court of law.

Just make the assumption that anything you do online is NOT private. Someone, somewhere, is seeing every bit of it, and it IS being stored. Saved. We have been told this. No warrant is necessary.

The same goes for your phone. Especially cell phones. If I want to have a private, well somewhat private converstation, I use a landline.

If I want a totally private conversation, it is in a room after the cellphone batteries have been removed, and left in another room, and the room I use has NO electronics. Not even self flushing toilets or motion sensed water faucets. No electronics. Not smoke alarms, sprinklers, fire alarms. Then, with white noise, and at a whisper.

Then again, my need to have conversations as such are extremely rare.

Not even outdoors is safe, in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night.

Yes, you have the right to privacy. It's gone. Assume that as fact. Now, knowing this, never, ever, EVER, write, email, or otherwise textualize anything you wouldn't mind your mother, wife, husband, children, or the police reading.Forever.

Think I am paranoid? That's fine. Bet I won't end up jailed over anything I thought was private communications.



I meant "private" as in privately owned....or none public or none government. Not "private" as in "secure".

as for everything else you said....I refuse to live like that....taking batteries out of phones and whispering in a white noise filled room....are you kidding me!?

I know they are watching and listening to everything and we need to work to get that corrected but I will not lurk about whispering in a noisy room like I am some spy on a secret mission. To hell with that.






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