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Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders - leaked EU's Ashton phone tape

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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 08:36 AM
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Anyone speak Estonian?

www.delfi.ee...

Apparently here he confirms the recording. Via google translate.



Paet visited Kiev 25 February , a few days after the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown . " Secondly, it was quite alarming that the same Olga told that all the evidence shows that both sides of the snipers killed in the people , if the people on the street as police officers , that they were the same sniper who killed people on both sides ," he said.

" He showed us the photos, he said that he is a doctor , and can be said to have the same handwriting, same type of bullets , he said , it is very disturbing that now the new coalition does not want to find out what exactly happened . Has stronger and stronger understanding that the snipers were not behind Yanukovych , but again no one from the coalition , "said Paet Recordings .

Paet Ashton was speaking of rumors spread very concerned about . " Worrying is that if it starts very strongly on a life of its own , then it discredits the very beginning of a new coalition ," he said. Both he and Ashton felt that the events should be investigated . Ashton said that the protesters must let the Verkhovna Rada to do their job .

Paet confirmed the authenticity of the recording


Sounds like it's real then.




posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 08:52 AM
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ManFromEurope
rt as the official russian voice of government is NOT the most-unbiased source for infos around Ukrainia, I would think..

Therefore: High hoax-propability.


Then why not try this source?



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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 08:58 AM
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I do


The Foreign Ministry have confirmed the authenticity of the tape. Paet will held a press conference in an hour Estonian time. Will hear more then. Ill be happy to translate some of it.

HM



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 09:01 AM
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Speaking for myself, I just want to say thanks for the translation help you may be able to offer. This is one of the things I love most about ATS. Something could happen in an obscure corner of Earth and someone will pop up here close enough to give a thumbnail sketch of events, at least. In a major thing like this? Well...It's just nice to have members willing to help where possible.




posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 09:03 AM
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Hithe Merinos
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I do


The Foreign Ministry have confirmed the authenticity of the tape. Paet will held a press conference in an hour Estonian time. Will hear more then. Ill be happy to translate some of it.

HM





posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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The Foreign Affairs Committee have hinted that the recording was made by the Russian Secret Services

Chairman of the committee Marko Mihkelson :



I have no doubt that the recording was made by Russian Secret Services


And thank you all



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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This clearly shows that the Doctor at the centre of the row said nothing like what has been reported on RT


Our correspondent, Damien McElroy, has spoken to the doctor at the centre of the claims that snipers that shot people in Kiev were hired by Maidan leaders:
Olga Bogomolets said she had not told Mr Paet that policemen and protesters had been killed in the same manner.
"Myself I saw only protesters. I do not know the type of wounds suffered by military people," she told The Telegraph. "I have no access to those people."
But she said she had asked for a full forensic criminal investigation into the deaths that occurred in the Maidan. "No one who just sees the wounds when treating the victims can make a determination about the type of weapons. I hope international experts and Ukrainian investigators will make a determination of what type of weapons, who was involved in the killings and how it was done. I have no data to prove anything.
"I was a doctor helping to save people on the square. There were 15 people killed on the first day by snipers. They were shot directly to the heart, brain and arteries. There were more than 40 the next day, 12 of them died in my arms.
"Our nation has to ask the question who were the killers, who asked them to come to Ukraine. We need good answers on the basis of expertise."
Mr Paet's assertion that an opposition figure was behind the Maidan massacre was not one she could share.
"I think you can only say something like this on the basis of fact," she said. "Its not correct and its not good to do this. It should be based on fact."
She said the new government in Kiev had assured her a criminal investigation had begun but that she had not direct contact with it so far.
"They told me they have begun a criminal process and if they say that I believe them. The police have not given me any information on it."


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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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The only Hoaxer are American media fox bbc ect that's why you don't see that news on US Manipulate news outlet.




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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 12:51 PM
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I found this video of said SNIPERS IN ACTION in Kiev.

All legs shoots, harrowing.

I dont know if it's been posted before.

Seems very well organised.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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Hithe Merinos
The Foreign Affairs Committee have hinted that the recording was made by the Russian Secret Services

Chairman of the committee Marko Mihkelson :



I have no doubt that the recording was made by Russian Secret Services


And thank you all


Yes, but let's not forget about the attack that happened last night on Ukraine's telecommunications. Unless that has been dismissed and I didn't read about it, it's not a coincidence that this report about snipers being hired by the opposition appears the following day.

The scary part of all this, is that we can't tell lies from truth. Just a couple of weeks ago, we could see moves from governments and they were visible, the reason why they were done was the part to figure out.

However, lately it's not like that. Governments are actively using and making moves that we would only hope to see in videogames and blockbuster movies.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 01:25 PM
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Here are some screen captures from the Live-leak video.






www.liveleak.com...



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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I want to know why he says, nice Australia, nice Australia. She replies , no I won't be going. We have no international meetings scheduled. I am very concerned about my Nations role as the U.N's President of the Security Council. Strange political Theatre here,since last November.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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Thanks for the still-pictures, mikeultra.

The licence plate is ukrainian, issued in kiev (AA).

Commenters on liveleak say the weapon is an AR-15, so an american model.

I am not much of a weaponery specialist, what do you guys think?
AR-15 or another model?

And if AR-15, why ? Where from?
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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 03:27 PM
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Yup.

That's definitely an American Weapon. M4, most likely.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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xavi1000
This clearly shows that the Doctor at the centre of the row said nothing like what has been reported on RT



LOL why don't you listen to leaked phone call and what was said while keeping in mind Estonian Govt admitted the call is real.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:33 PM
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Take this evidence and the phone call which Estonian government admitted was real.

And you get FACTS, the rebel opposition was doing a little False Flag on their own.

The Neocon Zionists have made False Flags very popular thing.

Everyone and their grandma now like to do false flags.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:51 PM
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All right hands in the air people. I'm gonna need a full run down of the events
preceeding this transmission. Snipers Russian who?

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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 07:42 PM
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Regarding the LiveLeak video: yeah, that's definitely an AR-pattern rifle. That said, ARs are fairly available in Europe, with several companies in central-eastern Europe manufacturing them, not to mention a number of M4s exported to Georgia. Wild guess, this one's probably a LUVO Arms model made in the Czech Republic (based on what I can see of the stock). In any case, it's not what you'd expect to see government forces in a former Com-Bloc country to be using. The Ukrainian army use Soviet-derivative weapons like AK-74s, not ARs.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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Yet another Russian / RT ooops.

Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Release - On the Telephone Conversation between Foreign Minister Paet and EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Catherine Ashton


05.03.2014


The recording of a telephone conversation between Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and High Representative Catherine Ashton that has been leaked online is authentic.

The conversation between Paet and Ashton took place on 26 February after the Estonian Foreign Minister’s return from his visit to Ukraine. His visit took place last week, soon after the end of street violence in Kiev.

Foreign Minister Paet was giving an overview of what he had heard the previous day in Kiev and expressed concern over the situation on the ground. We reject the claim that Paet was giving an assessment of the opposition’s involvement in the violence.


`It is extremely regrettable that phone calls are being intercepted,’ said Paet. ’The fact that this phone call has been leaked is not a coincidence,’ added Paet.


Dear journalists!

Today, at 5 pm Foreign Minister Urmas Paet is answering journalist´s questions in the Foreign Ministry.

Please enter through the guest entrance, Lauteri 2.



SPOKESPERSON´S OFFICE
637 7654
533 66 159
press@mfa.ee


If its all the same I will accept the Estonian ministry's response over that of Russia and RT.
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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 09:03 PM
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Xcathdra


If its all the same I will accept the Estonian ministry's response over that of Russia and RT.
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because it suits what you have decided is the truth...



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