It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
sn0rch
Lysergic
reply to post by onequestion
I am the universe experiencing itself.
What is the universe?
Why does it care about itself?
And what will it do when it realises that it's finite?
When I was younger, after a very difficult early childhood, my state of mind was very different than now. In trying to describe it to others, I often get some who say that that is the desirable state of enlightenment. I continue to find this questionable, as it was void of any emotional pleasure or appreciation of life. I find it hard to believe that people actually seek to become numb, and completely at the whim of others and their environment.
Lysergic
If we weren't observing the universe it wouldn't exist, vice versa.
I think the realizing something is for us.
Lysergic
sn0rch
Lysergic
reply to post by onequestion
I am the universe experiencing itself.
What is the universe?
Why does it care about itself?
And what will it do when it realises that it's finite?
If we weren't observing the universe it wouldn't exist, vice versa.
I think the realizing something is for us.
I assume by "We" you mean life capable of having a concept of universe… What we call the universe would exist just fine without us, there simply would be no value applied to it.
onequestion
reply to post by Strayed
I assume by "We" you mean life capable of having a concept of universe… What we call the universe would exist just fine without us, there simply would be no value applied to it.
You don't know that.
Its crazy to assume that.
When I was younger, after a very difficult early childhood, my state of mind was very different than now. In trying to describe it to others, I often get some who say that that is the desirable state of enlightenment.
I continue to find this questionable, as it was void of any emotional pleasure or appreciation of life. I find it hard to believe that people actually seek to become numb, and completely at the whim of others and their environment.
Bluesma
When I was younger, after a very difficult early childhood, my state of mind was very different than now. In trying to describe it to others, I often get some who say that that is the desirable state of enlightenment.
I continue to find this questionable, as it was void of any emotional pleasure or appreciation of life. I find it hard to believe that people actually seek to become numb, and completely at the whim of others and their environment.
Basically, I think my ego had been diminished to such a great degree it was barely existant. I didn't have much of a concept of self. I couldn't answer questions like what I wanted, what I liked, how I am in this way or that. If pressed, I could come up with a basic thing like that I am female, and my age, because I was told these facts and told to repeat them.
When left alone, I had no action to take, I did not play. I would sit and listen to sounds around me, look at colors around me. I was completely in the moment, yes, but if someone wanted to take my life, I would just let them. I had no will. I wanted nothing, I had no personal opinion.
Now, with the contrast of my experience now to refer to, I would say I simply projected my concept of self outward- I was all that I was experiencing in the moment- I was the others around me, I was the objects around me, I was the events. I felt emotions only second hand, through others. If a person walked in filled with an emotion, I would feel it, then when they left the room, it was gone. I had no sense of choice, of being a point from which choices could be made.
As I got older, this meant people did what they wanted to my body, to beat it or rape it, and I only began to build a sense of self after I had a child, and by contrast, began to find a self in me that could choose to protect it and care for it (and had to).
...
onequestion
Who are when you have no desire, when you reach a point where you realize what ambition really is? What do you then become?
Can any of you explain yourself without the lexicon you use to explain your identity?
Forget what you do and what your goals are, how do you then explain yourself?
Can anyone honestly answer this question?edit on 3/5/2014 by onequestion because: (no reason given)
onequestion
Who are when you have no desire, when you reach a point where you realize what ambition really is? What do you then become?
Can any of you explain yourself without the lexicon you use to explain your identity?
Forget what you do and what your goals are, how do you then explain yourself?
Can anyone honestly answer this question?edit on 3/5/2014 by onequestion because: (no reason given)
onequestion
Who are when you have no desire, when you reach a point where you realize what ambition really is? What do you then become?
Can any of you explain yourself without the lexicon you use to explain your identity?
Forget what you do and what your goals are, how do you then explain yourself?
Can anyone honestly answer this question?edit on 3/5/2014 by onequestion because: (no reason given)