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WhiteAlice
reply to post by VoidHawk
The doors can be opened from the inside but automatically lock when closed from the outside. They are safety fire doors. My guess is that most schools have doors like this now. I know that my youngest, when in elementary school, made the mistake of running back to grab her coat and was locked out of the school for 20 minutes before somebody noticed her tapping on the glass. Her teacher didn't even notice her being missing...The level of impressed I was with that one was zero.
VoidHawk
WhiteAlice
reply to post by VoidHawk
The doors can be opened from the inside but automatically lock when closed from the outside. They are safety fire doors. My guess is that most schools have doors like this now. I know that my youngest, when in elementary school, made the mistake of running back to grab her coat and was locked out of the school for 20 minutes before somebody noticed her tapping on the glass. Her teacher didn't even notice her being missing...The level of impressed I was with that one was zero.
I'm a Dinosaur.
I'm just not up on all this security nonsense. When I was at school there were no gates and often not even a perimeter fence! I remember one day a boy climbed onto the roof of our school to protest about something, guess what they did...they went back into school and just left him there. Half hour later he climbed down. I wonder what they'd do if that happened now?
Kangaruex4Ewe
VoidHawk
WhiteAlice
reply to post by VoidHawk
The doors can be opened from the inside but automatically lock when closed from the outside. They are safety fire doors. My guess is that most schools have doors like this now. I know that my youngest, when in elementary school, made the mistake of running back to grab her coat and was locked out of the school for 20 minutes before somebody noticed her tapping on the glass. Her teacher didn't even notice her being missing...The level of impressed I was with that one was zero.
I'm a Dinosaur.
I'm just not up on all this security nonsense. When I was at school there were no gates and often not even a perimeter fence! I remember one day a boy climbed onto the roof of our school to protest about something, guess what they did...they went back into school and just left him there. Half hour later he climbed down. I wonder what they'd do if that happened now?
Same here. In high school one could virtually come and go as one pleased.
As for the boy... They'd probably call in SWAT, dub him a homegrown terrorist and eventually wound or kill him because he moved too fast from one side to the other.
Times... They have changed.
MALBOSIA
Drills are meant to practice for the real thing.
So the alarm went off and I said, “well is it just a drill, do I have to go outside?”, and then he was like “well, we usually don't have just fake ones in the winter”.
VoidHawk
Why didn't she run for the nearest warm place?
She could have done something other than stand there like a victim for a whole whopping 10 min. Drills are meant to practice for the real thing.
Adults do polar bear swims in much colder than that and for much longer. kids run hot compared to adults. I am a parent and I don't raise my children to be helpless victims. I would be so mad at my kids if they stood there like victims rather than tend to themselves. Frost bite would be the least of their worries. Funny how a kids pain evaporates under the threat of no tv or video games.
defcon5
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
I doubt that the staff are idiots, and in an emergency, just like in triage, you have to deal with the “life and death” stuff before you deal with the “might cause some harm or discomfort” stuff.As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
Blood flow halts in frostbitten skin, and the area must be thawed and rewarmed swiftly to prevent tissue death (gangrene) and infection. The ears, nose, hands, and feet are particularly susceptible. Frostbite is sometimes accompanied by a life-threatening drop in internal body temperature, known as hypothermia, which must be treated first.
Frostbite is the temporary (superficial) or permanent (deep) skin tissue damage caused by prolonged skin-tissue temperature of 23 degrees F and below
roadgravel
The purpose of a rule is for safety. If the rule makes for an unsafe condition, it's a bad rule. An adjustment is in order.
MALBOSIA
reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe
She could have done something other than stand there like a victim for a whole whopping 10 min. Drills are meant to practice for the real thing.
Adults do polar bear swims in much colder than that and for much longer. kids run hot compared to adults. I am a parent and I don't raise my children to be helpless victims. I would be so mad at my kids if they stood there like victims rather than tend to themselves. Frost bite would be the least of their worries. Funny how a kids pain evaporates under the threat of no tv or video games.
Asktheanimals
I would fire every last responsible adult who went along with this.
I'm afraid to think what I might do if she were my daughter.
I'd be in jail, no question about it.
Kangaruex4Ewe
There were enough witnesses there that they could have safely put her in a car without worrying about some kind of sexual harassment claim, and there were enough adults there that someone should have been able to come up with a solution off the cuff if the car was completely out of the question.