It seems beyond any shadow of doub't Japan has nuclear weapons.

Indeed.

I posted somewhere about 3 months ago that Japans nuclear industry "lost" 200+ kilos of Plutonium in reprocessing.... Hmmm... wonder where that could have gone??

I remember that several years ago Japan was given access to (If memory serves) and F-15 which they modified and as a result improved it substantially.

Am wondering what will happen when they get a hold of our cruise missiles.

Yep, the Jap's took american and european cars and by the late 80's had in manufacturing and quality almost surpassed their compeditors. Nowadays there is virtually no comparrassion except the price tags.

Hello WWIII.

Don't think that China is going to sit back and watch N. Korea get bombarded. They will see it as an attack against communism- i.e. they will be next. A preemptive attack leads to another preemptive attack. The G8 would have a tough time with china. I mean, china v. canada, germany, italy, france- a joke.

If this is truly inevitable, all I have to say is that I hope we strike soon and unannounced, and go nuclear or neutronic on a massive scale. I would really not like to see it happen, but if it does I sure would like to be around to see the aftermath.

I doubt it'll happen that way.

I have a feeling that if someone does ANYTHING to NK, it will most likely be China, bringing NK back into line (with an outside chance that Japan might knock them down on thier own).

We could have a war in Asia involving NK, SK, China, Taiwan and Japan. What will be the USA & Russia positions ? I think they'll fight too in that war.

And it's very dangerous. When powerfull nation as China, Russia, USA and Japan are fighting we're close from a new world war. NK is really a pain in the a.. for the whole world. If NK strike a nation ( SK, Japan... ) I think Russia and China will let them down and will not support them. Who want to die for Pyongyang ?????

and if it does kick off.... would the UK get involved?

Talk about conspiracy. This topic is pure war-mongering blabber.

Conspiracy, what conspiracy? These are facts and the person who began all this “war mongering babble”, as you put it - is Mr. Kim. North Korea has continued to propagate their nuclear capability and have threatened to attack South Korea. That is a serious threat to world peace and stability, and must be dealt with objectively.

If you’re not interested in this topic why not ignore it, as I’ve done with all of your posts?

Who started it???

Got me.

I didn't follow the family wars between several nations for the last 50 years. All I know is that it began for us when the propagandist pigs of our country made this situation with the weapons of mass destruction a huge war between, East and West, Capitalist, and Communist. The Cold War is to blame for all this.

So is bad foreign policy. Atoms for peace, remember that???

Now look at our position.

George W. says stuff like this:

"Anyone who posses, makes, seeks, and sells weapons of mass destruction is a war criminal."


Is that so???

Well then are not we criminals???


Lets get real here. This is about weapon hostilites. This is all. Now, it is reasonable to act in defense, and protect one's domain. But it is another thing to butt in, and pry on the places of others. Tell me this, how do you feel about weapons rights???

Do you feel that certain nations should hold rights to certain weapons???

And if so why???


Abe

Butting in does not apply here Abe, as South Korea is a U.S. ally and under direct threat from North Korea.

Nuclear power carries the unspoken threat of total annihilation and any sane nation would not want to press that boundary for fear of the consequences. I would suggest that with military might and nuclear capability; come the responsibility not to abuse it by starting wars and killing possibly millions of people. If America wanted to bully other nations with the threat of nuclear weapons, it could do so – but it doesn’t. Why? Because America realises the horrors of a nuclear holocaust and only maintains its nuclear arsenal as a deterrent against foreign aggressors. America knows that it has the edge and uses political and economic pressure to manipulate other nations and get what it wants.

Sure that means that America carries the biggest stick on the block – but someone has to, why not the U.S.? The old saying goes, “might is right”. Meaning that the U.S. and her allies do enjoy an imbalance of power in the world today – but that’s just the way it is. Should the U.S. say, “OK everybody, we’ve decided that it’s unfair for us to have so much power, so we’re going to share it equally with all of you”. It’s natural for America to want to remain the dominant world power – hey, being in control of the world “feels good”. That’s human nature and just the way things are at present.

Personally, I’m glad that America has the edge and hope things remain like that for a long time to come. I’d hate to think about some of the fanatical third world countries ever getting possession of nuclear weapons. With their rigid beliefs and centuries old hatreds and traditions – there might not be much of a planet for anyone to enjoy, let alone control, if they did have this technology.

"Personally, I’m glad that America has the edge and hope things remain like that for a long time to come. I’d hate to think about some of the fanatical third world countries ever getting possession of nuclear weapons. With their rigid beliefs and centuries old hatreds and traditions – there might not be much of a planet for anyone to enjoy, let alone control, if they did have this technology."

I thought Israel had nukes?

Good points. The thing I find really amusing about Israeli WMD's is that shortly after the US started complaining about Syria having an alleged WMD program, Syria proposed a UN resolution requesting full WMD disaramament in the Middle East, including Israel.

The US quietly ignored that, as did the US media.

I've said before that NK is our biggest threat. No doubt. However, they're saber rattling is an attempt at blackmail. Nothing will happen yet. Why? Because China is not ready. China has their North Korean dog on a leash. When The dog starts barking too much, China will pull the leash. When China is ready for the eventual war they wish to wage (i.e. after their technological military build up! and contrary to dragon's thoughts of HAARP destroying a chinese first wave missile attack - which we all know is BS (another posting)), they will allow NK to flare up again and they will not pull the leash. NK will then be their diversionary tactic for their primary push against the USA.

my opinion

Yes, North Korea has been acting like a child having a temper tantrum and I’ve suspected that their bravado comes from having big brother China standing behind them. Nothing else makes any sense, as Mr. Kim has been spouting some very provocative stuff in the last few months and threatening to start a nuclear conflict that would draw in the U.S. and Japan seems suicidal.

I agree that China is probably using North Korea as a puppet of diversion and tool for gaining Chinese objectives. I believe that China has designs on becoming a much greater world power and toppling America if they could.

I can’t comment on Dragonrider’s HAARP beliefs, because I’m not really very knowledgeable about HAARP.