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Theoretical Perpetual Motion Electrogenic Mechanism

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posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 11:14 AM
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Yellowstone park would make a great geothermal power generator except the EPA would ban it because of it being 1)a world heritage spot, and 2) some endangered bug species live there in the park.




posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 11:42 AM
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I wasn't asking about what was going on. I was posting so that the OP could see how his magnet in a coil of copper wire isn't as free of external forces as he thinks.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 06:39 PM
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Bedlam
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Because the only energy it has is gravitational potential energy. As you extract that, it will reach a lower and lower height each pass until it stops. It's a sort of pendulum.


As always, Bedlam is correct.

Specifically where it goes:

The falling magnet induces current in the surrounding conductor, and this current in the conductor will itself create a magnetic field which causes a force on the falling magnet, opposing the motion, thereby decelerating the falling magnet.

Furthermore, the finite resistance in the surrounding conductor means that heat will be created from the current in the conductor and that where the potential & kinetic energy of the falling magnet will end up.

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posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 06:41 PM
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BGTM90
Can you explain how using energy from this will cause it to stop? Also whats with people animosity and rudeness on this site it seems like people have it out for each other in order to prove a superior intelligence.


Superior knowledge. People take "deny ignorance" seriously.


I just wanted to have a constructive and fun conversation in order to learn about an idea maybe this is not the place.


Yes it is the place. You were indeed having a constructive conversation, but you didn't recognize it as such.

Don't get all kerflumpt about random people's words on Internet anyway!



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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ZeussusZ
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The animosity
People are scared their sacred laws of physics might be broken and their reality will come crashing down. Lot of ego and careers have been put into it.
Op Keep it up, people who think outside the box are the winners most of the time.
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People who think outside the box AND think that Einstein and Maxwell are totally wrong just because, are losers all of the time.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 06:48 PM
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ChesterJohn

JimTSpock
Heard of geothermal power production?

No need to try to drill a hole right through the planet. Below the crust is molten magma which is hot! Drilling a hole through a liquid is problematic.

Geothermal power uses the heat below the Earth's crust to generate power. Much better than big magnets and holes etc. And it works!


Do you think there is a way to harness the magnetic field of the earth to generate electricity?


Yes, but not for earthly purposes.

Potentially on a satellite. Electrodynamical tether

However, nearly all practical engineering relies on photovoltaic panels as being more reliable and much easier to control.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 07:24 PM
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mbkennel

ChesterJohn

JimTSpock
Heard of geothermal power production?

No need to try to drill a hole right through the planet. Below the crust is molten magma which is hot! Drilling a hole through a liquid is problematic.

Geothermal power uses the heat below the Earth's crust to generate power. Much better than big magnets and holes etc. And it works!


Do you think there is a way to harness the magnetic field of the earth to generate electricity?


Yes, but not for earthly purposes.

Potentially on a satellite. Electrodynamical tether

However, nearly all practical engineering relies on photovoltaic panels as being more reliable and much easier to control.



Not fully correct, you can harness the atmosphere too. Need very high and long cable/wire though.


Tesla Radiant Energy



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