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For sure the excuse will be that we have never invaded another Nation on our own but NATO was the invaders. They always will be. Bush had NATO to back up his invasion which has been in place for a long time. Russia, China, and North Korea do not have that. Although, Russia and China can Veto as being on the Security Council it makes our cases against Russia, China, and North Korea a problem.
It was not a problem with Iraq.
The problem is that when Russia and China become a problem can NATO go against them when they are Members??
When China and Russia have a Vote in the Security Council it pretty much can mean they are members of NATO when the vote they cast pretty much means whether NATO can attack.
reply to post by helius
Don't forget China vs Vietnam, oh and China vs the Philippines, oh and China vs pretty much everyone ion the South China Sea region because apparently, it all belongs to China..
Us not doing anything here, in the Ukraine, sends all the wrong signals that we don't hold up our end of the bargain.
The US was hamstrung when it came to Syria and had a limited involvement in Libya and an almost non-existent involvement in Mali. At least what the US does, it does so with broad international backing and, generally, play's by the rules.
reply to post by MysterX
I did say "generally"....
But if you bring up cold war era examples, then the Soviets did their fair share too - it was all part of the game and to be honest, like you said, without the US then the world would have been a very different place and even when they didn't "play by the rules" it was usually for the greater good - often after the Soviets had been up to their own dirty tricks in fact.
In Cuba, for example, Castro had support from the Soviets but even the US welcomed the revolution hoping it would bring "democracy" - that was shattered when Castro signed co-op agreements with Russia though.
It's all very well picking examples of US "bad behaviour", but you have to show them in the correct context and understand that they weren't the only one's up to dirty tricks.
I dread to think what the world would have looked like if the West hadn't worked as hard as they did to stop the spread of Communism. Up until the 1980's the Soviets had a military advantage over the West and had they not been pegged back where possible, it is very likely they may have sought to press that advantage.
Without America during the last century, the world would be a very different place today, and probably not for the better.
a form of political and government corruption where the government exists to increase the personal wealth and political power of its officials and the ruling class at the expense of the wider population, often with pretense of honest service