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posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 05:05 AM
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Again (as usually) nice sunny morning over my city became hazy in a few hours of weird cirruses forming behind planes.
I'm used to ignore long persistent trails in the sky especially in the winter as I can imagine that the atmosphere is colder.
However in days like this one has to think about all possible conspiracies and scientific explanations because this effect is out of normal. It's not primarily a question of possible human intention in such event. There was and is no other cloud on the bright sky and these planes changed the game, changed the weather. There will be no good sunbathing today because the sun radiation is now filtered through this layer and is not warming the ground (and me) enough and the air stays colder too.
Is there rather some population protecting conspiracy or it is possible that the atmosphere got a boost from the Sun and it behaves differently because it is electrically charged?
Do you observe this effect stronger in such days? Can you see it today over your area?




posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 07:00 AM
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All blue skies here. What area are you in?



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 07:10 AM
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PapagiorgioCZ
Again (as usually) nice sunny morning over my city became hazy in a few hours of weird cirruses forming behind planes.
I'm used to ignore long persistent trails in the sky especially in the winter as I can imagine that the atmosphere is colder.

Well now, if you can just "imagine," the atmosphere at 35,000 feet is nearly the same temperature every single day of the year, you may begin to actually learn more and not rely on your imagination...

However in days like this one has to think about all possible conspiracies and scientific explanations because this effect is out of normal. It's not primarily a question of possible human intention in such event. There was and is no other cloud on the bright sky and these planes changed the game, changed the weather.

I betcha a dollar to a donut there will be some type of precipitation in store for your area...the only reason you even saw these planes was because of the contrails and the only reason you saw the contrails was because weather conditions were already changing for your area.

There will be no good sunbathing today because the sun radiation is now filtered through this layer and is not warming the ground (and me) enough and the air stays colder too.
Who sunbathes in the winter? Do you want the planes to stop flying?

Is there rather some population protecting conspiracy or it is possible that the atmosphere got a boost from the Sun and it behaves differently because it is electrically charged?
Do you observe this effect stronger in such days? Can you see it today over your area?
Anywhere planes are flying at 35K feet and the temperature/humidity meet the conditions, people will see contrails. It has nothing to do with electricity.



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 07:17 AM
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totallackey
Anywhere planes are flying at 35K feet and the temperature/humidity meet the conditions, people will see contrails. It has nothing to do with electricity.


That is an interesting theory. One I would say at least needs to be looked at before it's trashed.
Static electricity is present in the atmosphere.



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 07:53 AM
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I'm seeing the same sky everyday for the last couple of decades and the phenomena is outstandingly out of the norm in days of solar storms everytime. Temperature is never the same in a range of 6-12 km nor is humidity or pressure. It's nonsense.



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 07:55 AM
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You're not seeing the same engines though. And temperature and humidity where you are, are completely different from what they are at altitude. Your readings mean nothing when it comes to contrail formation at 34,000 feet.



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 08:07 AM
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It's nonsense.


Care to elaborate a little on what your calling nonsense?



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 10:40 AM
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It is. Don't you think that at 10km there's constant -49,9°C, do you? Temperature is governed by many factors, including incoming solar radiation, humidity and of course altitude. What are you speaking about is probably average temp but you don't have 15°C at sea level everywhere all the time. Let's have a look at Mt. Everest at 9km - it can be everywhere between-10°C to -83°C



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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The average temperature at altitude changes a few degrees over the course of a few hundred miles. I've taken flights and watched -63 the entire flight, with almost no variation.



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 10:47 AM
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Try to remember a summer day that was sunny and humid and hot and all you want to do is jump in a cool pool or ocean or lake. You're enjoying the day when suddenly the sky starts to darken and thunder clouds begin building up next thing you know Hugh fat raindrops are crashing all around you. The rain is so hard it hurts your skin. Summer storms start very unexpectedly sometimes. It doesn'tt take much time for clouds to form under the right circumstances. Watch a storm as it progresses and you'll see clouds form in seconds. I've watched them form just that quickly and its always just a natural occurrence. If you only look at the sky occasionally you miss a lot. I'm a weather watcher and watch the sky all the time.



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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Actually I do think the temperature at altitudes where contrails are formed is pretty consistent...varies by a few degrees...humidity is the determining factor...

I do not think electricity (static or otherwise) has anything to do with contrail formation.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 04:52 AM
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In such case there had to be some other factor causing the phenomena because it would be the same all the time



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 05:17 AM
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PapagiorgioCZ
In such case there had to be some other factor causing the phenomena because it would be the same all the time


What phenomena? I am unaware of anything that remains constant in regard to weather. Consistent? Yes. Constant? No.



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 05:19 PM
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You know what phenomena. Will we just play with words?
I was googling for the phrase and it looks like this pattern is well known.
Checked also a few vids and although its pre-2012 stuff author pretty much sums it up.
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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:10 PM
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PapagiorgioCZ
You know what phenomena. Will we just play with words?
I was googling for the phrase and it looks like this pattern is well known.
Checked also a few vids and although its pre-2012 stuff author pretty much sums it up.
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The phenomena is contrails? What is so phenomenal about clouds?

Since we are still here after 2012, should I and the rest of the membership simply ignore this doom porn?

I see your video and raise you one:




posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 06:40 PM
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First off, you are bonkers. You have no idea how high these planes were flying, what kind of planes they were, engines, nothing. To make blanket statements like that is ridiculous.

Weather does not change that quickly from an entirely blue sky as described. Give me a break.


The Bot



posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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dlbott
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First off, you are bonkers. You have no idea how high these planes were flying, what kind of planes they were, engines, nothing. To make blanket statements like that is ridiculous.


Neither do you now those things - and yet you are happy enough to make your own blanket statements.....


Weather does not change that quickly from an entirely blue sky as described. Give me a break.


No - you are wrong.

"weather" does change "that quickly" from blue sky to cloud in a few hours - it always has, and it has been associated with contrails since the early days of WW2 -


The German on the ground knows us by the pearly white scarf which every plane flying at high altitude trails behind like a bridal veil. The disturbance created by our meteoric flight crystallizes the watery vapor in the atmosphere. We unwind behind us a cirrus of icicles. If the atmospheric conditions are favorable to the formation of clouds, our wake will thicken bit by bit and become an evening cloud over the countryside.

- Antoine de Saint Exuperry, "Flight to Arras", 1942, still available on Amazon.

He was writing about his experience flying recce missions over the front line in 1940.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 03:03 AM
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Weather does not change that quickly from an entirely blue sky as described. Give me a break.



And what exactly happens when the weather changes from a sunny day to an overcast day that brings rain, can it not change very quickly?



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 03:19 AM
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dlbott
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First off, you are bonkers.

No I am not. At least according to the professionals.

You have no idea how high these planes were flying, what kind of planes they were, engines, nothing.

I did not write the OP. If I wrote the OP, I would present the necessary information to substantiate my premise. Since the OP mentioned trails behind planes and:

1. Nearly every single post I have seen at the site referencing trails behind planes are, in fact, contrails; and,
2. The altitudes at which contrails are formed is a well known scientific fact.

I felt the number of 35000 feet was well within a few thousand feet (+/-) for the situation.

To make blanket statements like that is ridiculous.

If you have trouble with science, take it up with nature.

Weather does not change that quickly from an entirely blue sky as described. Give me a break. The Bot

Horse hockey.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 07:01 AM
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OP is about the observable patterns with not much of presumptions but including space for some new scientific explanation. It has no ambition to explain or expose anything.
You can do a simple subjective test - watch the sky on regular, eventually windy days and you may see less of it happening. Whatever it is. Look up in time of increased solar activity (and a week after) and you can almost bet your shoes there will be plenty of haze from it (maybe above clouds) and you wont see a clear Sun anyway.
Im afraid that some of you would say "nah!" even if someone wrote a statistic diary. Im sure someone on the net does.
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