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Patriot Group Fights Back Against Confiscation Order: ‘We Are Armed… Familiar With Marksmanship

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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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doubletap

DJW001


I don't suppose it has ever occurred to any of you that gun registration might help law enforcement officers solve crimes, and that this would be a legitimate way of serving and protecting the commonwealth?


Gun owners know their serial numbers and are quite capable of calling the local pd and giving them that information if their gun is ever stolen.

There is no compelling need for the government to know who owns what guns.


But will they report their guns as being stolen if they refuse to admit they even own them?




posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:26 PM
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Me too I was trained on the M1 ABRAMS,M16A1,M1911,HAND GRENADES ETC.
LMAO



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:27 PM
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Of course they wouldn't report banned firearms as stolen. We are referring to legal possession and theft....



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:29 PM
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TiedDestructor
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Of course they wouldn't report banned firearms as stolen. We are referring to legal possession and theft....


Then why is reporting that they are legally owned and not yet stolen a problem?



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:29 PM
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DJW001
Yes, just keep patting each other on the back. Don't listen to that crazy liberal who keeps trying to get you to think. Just keep repeating to yourself: THEY'RE GOING TO COME FOR MY GUNS.

I don't suppose it has ever occurred to any of you that gun registration might help law enforcement officers solve crimes, and that this would be a legitimate way of serving and protecting the commonwealth?


Gotta love the logic, as broken as it is...

Very simply man; I am an independent sentient being on my own unique path. I have the RIGHT to follow that path without interference. Further, I have the RIGHT to defend both my path and being from any and all interference, using what ever methods I choose. With current 2014 technology that would be my intelligence, logic, martial arts skills, and my Winchester 30/30. Which ever seems the most appropriate at any given instant. This is a RIGHT that all living creatures have. Attempting to limit that RIGHT is criminal...period!

Providing for complete registration of all firearms in this country is cost prohibitive! And, probably not possible. But, lets just consider what is required to register all fire arms...

Each weapon will have to be "test fired" to obtain ballistics data (barrel print). the owners will have to be identified and that identification "linked" to the weapon data. So now is when I ask if you have any idea the kind and extent of resources that will require? I design and implement databases for a living...can I have that contract? Please!!! Seriously...I'll do it for just one jurisdiction, then I can tell those poor folk like Billy Gates to slide over, the big dog is in town.

Seriously man, the engineering, the physical storage, and the infrastructure for such a thing could easily cost what the bank bailout did.

I don't think any of us want a repeat of that disaster...




posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:31 PM
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DJW001

Then why is reporting that they are legally owned and not yet stolen a problem?


Again, government has no compelling need to know who owns what.

If a gun is stolen, the legal owner is no longer in possession of it.

Gun registration is NEVER a good idea. The government cannot be trusted with information as it has proven time and time again.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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DJW001


Yes, just keep patting each other on the back. Don't listen to that crazy liberal who keeps trying to get you to think. Just keep repeating to yourself: THEY'RE GOING TO COME FOR MY GUNS.


Do we need to review exactly what was written in the letter???


edit on 3-3-2014 by macman because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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DJW001

bigfatfurrytexan

oblvion

DJW001
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For the last time, THEY ARE TRyING TO TAKE OUR GUNS.


If I can't trust you to keep your word that you will never say THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OUR GUNS, how can I trust you to keep your word that you will never use the gun against an innocent person?


Why cant you trust me?

How does shooting someone to death a a small lie on a chat forum even equate in your version of logic?

Why wont you tell me how many names of those in power it would take to make you stop saying they arent trying to take guns from people?

Because you know they are, and you are trying to play word games to avoid the truth, nice try though.


Don't bother arguing with him. There have been several posts in a row that are lacking logic to such a severe degree that it is obvious the only result will be derailing and tangents.


Yes, just keep patting each other on the back. Don't listen to that crazy liberal who keeps trying to get you to think. Just keep repeating to yourself: THEY'RE GOING TO COME FOR MY GUNS.

I don't suppose it has ever occurred to any of you that gun registration might help law enforcement officers solve crimes, and that this would be a legitimate way of serving and protecting the commonwealth?


Gun registration has never been proven to solve crimes. Why? Because criminals don't follow the law and register their guns. Canada actually stopped their registration program because it was a very expensive failure.

OTOH, registration HAS precluded confiscation in places like California, MD, and NY. "Trust us, register them, we just want to stop crime, not take them away" has been proven to be a lie.

Registration of law abiding gun owners is not a way to protect the commonwealth. Never has, never will be.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:35 PM
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tanka418

DJW001
Yes, just keep patting each other on the back. Don't listen to that crazy liberal who keeps trying to get you to think. Just keep repeating to yourself: THEY'RE GOING TO COME FOR MY GUNS.

I don't suppose it has ever occurred to any of you that gun registration might help law enforcement officers solve crimes, and that this would be a legitimate way of serving and protecting the commonwealth?


Gotta love the logic, as broken as it is...

Very simply man; I am an independent sentient being on my own unique path. I have the RIGHT to follow that path without interference. Further, I have the RIGHT to defend both my path and being from any and all interference, using what ever methods I choose. With current 2014 technology that would be my intelligence, logic, martial arts skills, and my Winchester 30/30. Which ever seems the most appropriate at any given instant. This is a RIGHT that all living creatures have. Attempting to limit that RIGHT is criminal...period!

Providing for complete registration of all firearms in this country is cost prohibitive! And, probably not possible. But, lets just consider what is required to register all fire arms...

Each weapon will have to be "test fired" to obtain ballistics data (barrel print). the owners will have to be identified and that identification "linked" to the weapon data. So now is when I ask if you have any idea the kind and extent of resources that will require? I design and implement databases for a living...can I have that contract? Please!!! Seriously...I'll do it for just one jurisdiction, then I can tell those poor folk like Billy Gates to slide over, the big dog is in town.

Seriously man, the engineering, the physical storage, and the infrastructure for such a thing could easily cost what the bank bailout did.

I don't think any of us want a repeat of that disaster...




And thus you have just explained why they will never be able to confiscate all your guns. Since it is logistically impossible, what is everyone afraid of?



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:36 PM
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DJW001

TiedDestructor
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Of course they wouldn't report banned firearms as stolen. We are referring to legal possession and theft....


Then why is reporting that they are legally owned and not yet stolen a problem?


Simply put: i do not want to. Why is THAT a problem?



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:37 PM
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DJW001

bigfatfurrytexan

oblvion

DJW001
reply to post by oblvion
 



For the last time, THEY ARE TRyING TO TAKE OUR GUNS.


If I can't trust you to keep your word that you will never say THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OUR GUNS, how can I trust you to keep your word that you will never use the gun against an innocent person?


Why cant you trust me?

How does shooting someone to death a a small lie on a chat forum even equate in your version of logic?

Why wont you tell me how many names of those in power it would take to make you stop saying they arent trying to take guns from people?

Because you know they are, and you are trying to play word games to avoid the truth, nice try though.


Don't bother arguing with him. There have been several posts in a row that are lacking logic to such a severe degree that it is obvious the only result will be derailing and tangents.


Yes, just keep patting each other on the back. Don't listen to that crazy liberal who keeps trying to get you to think. Just keep repeating to yourself: THEY'RE GOING TO COME FOR MY GUNS.

I don't suppose it has ever occurred to any of you that gun registration might help law enforcement officers solve crimes, and that this would be a legitimate way of serving and protecting the commonwealth?


In addition, you aren't trying to make anyone think. How could you? You just are repeating the thoughtless mantra of the left--devoid of logic and reason. The anti-gun stance is not the thoughtful stance, it is the emotional one, the irrational one, and is based on emotional arguments, not thinking ones.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:37 PM
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It's all about control.

Those of you that would welcome gun registration, gun confiscation, just can't stand the thought of a society that is based on personal responsibility.

Individual rights. Those rights assured to us by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are paramount in a free society.

But we can't have that, can we. You need control. Control of what we eat, smoke, drive, wear, say, see, watch and do. You need control over those freedoms guaranteed by the founding documents, because, without that control; agendas, ideologies, programs and platforms cannot be enacted.

You abhor free speech, when it is not the speech you want. Notice the recent attempt of the FCC to "police" the media (even the print media?)

Law after law after law is proposed to limit freedoms under the guise of safety and security. You cannot legislate against guns without limiting the freedoms that enable us to have them.

Why not just admit that too much freedom is distasteful to you. Why not just admit that holding personal responsibility over your own life is far too onerous and that you wish some kind and benevolent government will do it all for you!

Just be honest, and admit that you think the Constitution is past it's prime.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:38 PM
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DJW001
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For the last time, THEY ARE TRyING TO TAKE OUR GUNS.


If I can't trust you to keep your word that you will never say THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OUR GUNS, how can I trust you to keep your word that you will never use the gun against an innocent person?


Your avatar states that your location is EARTH.
Are you sure that location is CORRECT ?



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:39 PM
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I am not afraid. I am fed up. And I am pissed off.

before I was fed up and pissed off, no one had anything to worry about. It is becoming decidedly less so.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:46 PM
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DJW001

And thus you have just explained why they will never be able to confiscate all your guns. Since it is logistically impossible, what is everyone afraid of?


Does the fact that government routinely violates peoples rights on a daily basis not enter your mind?

What is government afraid of that they think they need a firearm registry?



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 01:57 PM
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DJW001

TiedDestructor
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Of course they wouldn't report banned firearms as stolen. We are referring to legal possession and theft....


Then why is reporting that they are legally owned and not yet stolen a problem?


Your making my head hurt. My God.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 02:02 PM
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If you like you gun you can keep it...

That is until Government says otherwise.

Save the brass hang their a$$




posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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And thus you have just explained why they will never be able to confiscate all your guns. Since it is logistically impossible, what is everyone afraid of?



Right again. They will only be able to take the honest peoples firearms.
And isn't that how it's been all along? It's always the honest people getting
the shaft. But their catching on and there are fewer and fewer of them.
Someday I guess anarchy won't be the law. Just a good idea.
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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 02:21 PM
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It isn't at first about taking away firearms.
They are just working on making those with firearms deemed as criminals.

Why take them away, when you can ban people from having them.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 02:35 PM
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I personally hope the CT gov't stands down. No one needs to die over this.

I made a few friends when I worked up there at NSB New London. The ones I talked to have AR's and none of them have registered them and they won't.

What part of shall not be infringed can government not understand?

I guess it will take blood being spilled once again to get the message across....


I would hate for it to go that way but if that is what must happen so be it.

Liberty or Death...



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