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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:19 AM
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andy1972
BBC REPORTS HARDLINE SANCTIONS -

Chris Morris BBC News tweets: Ukrainian ambassador to #EU tells me one sanction they will push for if Moscow doesn't back down is expel Russia from World Cup this summer..

Putin must be looking to change his boxers after reading that...


This is shameful.




posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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lynn112
Asen, I have to agree with what someone else has said. It is time to at the very least get things together in preparation to leave if you need to. I fear Poland may close its borders and leave you trapped if you wait to long.

Be safe.


I have to agree with this. In refugee situations it is always those that wait that end up paying the price because the host country can only handle so much extra demand on their resources before they become overwhelmed. Things can always replaced so long as you stay alive.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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17:18: Interfax-Russia news agency is now quoting a spokesman for the Russian Black Sea Fleet denying reports about an ultimatum being issued to the Ukrainian troops in Crimea. "This is nonsense", a spokesman said. "We are getting used to daily reports accusing us of preparing to military action against our Ukrainian colleagues. We will not be pushed towards a head-on confrontation."



I dont understand this. Somethings wrong here.
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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR 2m
#Russian occupation:10 APCs and 1 bus drove into stratigic crossroad of #Dzhankoy - KrymSOS |PR News #Ukraine #Crimea pic.twitter.com/rXdp0O0gIa



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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17:18: Interfax-Russia news agency is now quoting a spokesman for the Russian Black Sea Fleet denying reports about an ultimatum being issued to the Ukrainian troops in Crimea. "This is nonsense", a spokesman said. "We are getting used to daily reports accusing us of preparing to military action against our Ukrainian colleagues. We will not be pushed towards a head-on confrontation."

Makes you wonder where the rumours are coming from, doesn't it..
Maybe somebody wants to make some soldiers nervous, maybe they want a nervous kid with an AK to squeeze the trigger just a bit to hard.

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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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lynn112
Asen, I have to agree with what someone else has said. It is time to at the very least get things together in preparation to leave if you need to. I fear Poland may close its borders and leave you trapped if you wait to long.

Be safe.



See. Both andy1972 and myself said so. Lynn agrees.
Sorry I know you have no car. And much invested there. But what's it worth if something happens....
But I respect your position....you sir have golden b@lls. Please stay safe.

Is there an ATS'r over the border that can get Asen and take him and his in?!



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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asen_y2k

17:18: Interfax-Russia news agency is now quoting a spokesman for the Russian Black Sea Fleet denying reports about an ultimatum being issued to the Ukrainian troops in Crimea. "This is nonsense", a spokesman said. "We are getting used to daily reports accusing us of preparing to military action against our Ukrainian colleagues. We will not be pushed towards a head-on confrontation."



I dont understand this. Somethings wrong here.
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That's interesting and good news if true. It's very hard to sift through the propaganda vs reality here...



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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asen_y2k

17:18: Interfax-Russia news agency is now quoting a spokesman for the Russian Black Sea Fleet denying reports about an ultimatum being issued to the Ukrainian troops in Crimea. "This is nonsense", a spokesman said. "We are getting used to daily reports accusing us of preparing to military action against our Ukrainian colleagues. We will not be pushed towards a head-on confrontation."



I dont understand this. Somethings wrong here.
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Oops..gulp..my bad. Wasn't trying to get ya worked up. I thought the ultimatum was real...



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:25 AM
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To be fair, the Russians also said claims of their forces overunning the Crimea were nonsense until they were all in place, so I wouldn't put much stock in anything they are saying right now.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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Wookiep

asen_y2k

17:18: Interfax-Russia news agency is now quoting a spokesman for the Russian Black Sea Fleet denying reports about an ultimatum being issued to the Ukrainian troops in Crimea. "This is nonsense", a spokesman said. "We are getting used to daily reports accusing us of preparing to military action against our Ukrainian colleagues. We will not be pushed towards a head-on confrontation."



I dont understand this. Somethings wrong here.
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That's interesting and good news if true. It's very hard to sift through the propaganda vs reality here...


Now Ukrainian tv is not saying anything about the Russians saying the ultimatum is rubbish. They are flashing the ultimatum still.

Fog of war....
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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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The way it's worded it came off to me like Putin trying to backpedal from a failed attempt to peacefully take the ship.

Edit: you don't refer to people you are surrounding and taking over as 'colleagues'. Maybe its just the translation tho.

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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:27 AM
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stumason
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To be fair, the Russians also said claims of their forces overunning the Crimea were nonsense until they were all in place, so I wouldn't put much stock in anything they are saying right now.


Yeah, we all know it's he said, she said..but maybe there is someone here that doesn't want everything to smoothly.

The Russians have more to loose through the bullet than the ballot.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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Despite what Russian Defense Ministry says, those of us who were there heard this ship deliver ultimatum to Slavutych pic.twitter.com/fuf0enF19O
12:17 PM - 3 Mar 2014



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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There are Gas Pipelines from Russia going through the Ukraine , in the past if there would be signs of abuse the russians would just turn it off on their end , so they kind of used it as leverage.

(off topic)

To me this looks a lot like a tactic i use in a Strategy game , the Total war series , in wich i use spies to incite riots and public unrest.
Since this is a Nation with Diplomatic standings with other nations , attacking it out of the blue would lower my diplomatic relationship with these factions or even risking engaging into war with them.

But if i can rally up the population into a uprising , this country status will change towards a rebel nation , and taking it with military force will have almost no diplomatic impact.

I am not saying Russia is responsible for the protests and demonstrations , they just used this already complicated situation to get a foothold into Crimea again.

TheGreazel.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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CNBC analyst lady just reported '' russian black sea fleet says there are NO plans to launch an assault'' .

So for what it's worth. Shes' quoting ' interfax' . No link, live tv. sorry

ETA I just imagine the ' look over there, its' a bird, it's a plane' scenario ....
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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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rt.com...



The self-defense forces guarding the borders of the Ukrainian autonomous republic of Crimea have prevented a large amount of firearms and explosives from being smuggled into the republic by Kiev radicals.

The Cossacks and Berkut troops at the road checkpoint in the Crimean peninsula have confiscated explosives equivalent to 400 kilograms of TNT as well as grenades, rifles and guns, Russia-1 TV channel reports.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:36 AM
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doompornjunkie
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The way it's worded it came off to me like Putin trying to backpedal from a failed attempt to peacefully take the ship.

Edit: you don't refer to people you are surrounding and taking over as 'colleagues'. Maybe its just the translation tho.

edit on 3-3-2014 by doompornjunkie because: (no reason given)


Or someone is trying to keep everyone tense and on the edge, hoping for the first shot to start it all.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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khimbar

doompornjunkie
reply to post by andy1972
 


The way it's worded it came off to me like Putin trying to backpedal from a failed attempt to peacefully take the ship.

Edit: you don't refer to people you are surrounding and taking over as 'colleagues'. Maybe its just the translation tho.

edit on 3-3-2014 by doompornjunkie because: (no reason given)


Or someone is trying to keep everyone tense and on the edge, hoping for the first shot to start it all.


This situation is harder to figure out than my Bio-Chemistry 2 final.
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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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doompornjunkie

khimbar

doompornjunkie
reply to post by andy1972
 


The way it's worded it came off to me like Putin trying to backpedal from a failed attempt to peacefully take the ship.

Edit: you don't refer to people you are surrounding and taking over as 'colleagues'. Maybe its just the translation tho.

edit on 3-3-2014 by doompornjunkie because: (no reason given)


Or someone is trying to keep everyone tense and on the edge, hoping for the first shot to start it all.


This situation is harder to figure out than my Bio-Chemistry 2 final.
edit on 3-3-2014 by doompornjunkie because: (no reason given)


No..this is a mexican standoff, and if someone farts, everyone reaches for the trigger...the problem is, i dont think the fart will be intentional it will be a nervous fart, maybe even a provoked fart from the west...metaphorically speaking, of course...
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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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A DP...SORRY..
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