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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 02:56 AM
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update on shot down plane in Lugansk-49 killed, 40 paratroopers and 9 crew members.



Forty-nine Ukrainian troops were killed when their military Il-76 transport jet was taken down by local militia forces just before landing at Lugansk Airport. Some military hardware and supplies were lost as well.

The death toll was confirmed by the Ukrainian General Prosecutor’s office on Saturday morning in a statement, which said nine crew members and 40 troops were killed.



Hard to understand that Kiev is using Lugansk airport for military use considering that NAF has been increasing the number of its forces in airport area with obvious intention to try to take it over. For a last few days they are warning Natzguard forces to surrender and leave the airport.
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posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 03:09 AM
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U.S. Confirms Russia Sent Tanks, Weapons to Ukrainian Separatists


The State Department announced on Friday that it has confirmed that Russia, which has repeatedly denied stoking unrest in Ukraine, sent tanks, rocket launchers and other weapons into the country.

The New York Times reports that "a Western official said that the intelligence about the movement of the tanks and other weapons into Ukraine was shared on Friday with NATO allies," after affirming that tanks seen on Ukrainian streets were, in fact, of Russian origin.

The State Department added on Friday that it expects the Kremlin to deny the claim, saying, "Russia will claim these tanks were taken from Ukrainian forces, but no Ukrainian tank units have been operating in that area,” but adding that it is confident the tanks, and other weapons, are from Russia:


Click link for remainder of article...


Russia Just Significantly Escalated The Crisis In Ukraine



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 03:49 AM
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unconfirmed reports about fighting between Natzguard forces at Lugansk airport
Google translation



"Around 17:30 June 13th the battle began one of the parts - Dnepropetrovsk - raised the flag of Russia, wished, apparently, to leave the airport," - said Alexey Axe Defense Ministry spokesman LC channel RT. "Between the two parts of a fierce battle ensued, after which part of the Dnepropetrovsk left the airport and went to the side of Anthracite, now presumed to be in the forest nearby, we are trying to establish contact with them, their loyalty. But the fact of the flag-raising Russia says a lot, "- he continued. Press secretary of the Ministry of Defense LC also told television channel RT, which previously took LC in Lugansk airport blockade with a view to achieve the withdrawal of the military airmobile forces of Ukraine, about 2000 people, armed to the teeth. Earlier, a journalist of "Komsomolskaya Pravda" Nikolai Varsegov in his microblog on Twitter also said about this fight between Dnepropetrovsk and Lvov paratroopers Luhansk airport, then, Dnipropetrovsk Marines raised the flag of Russia and left the airport towards the city Anthracite. "Reported from headquarters Army South. Morning at the airport Lugansk flared fight between Dnepropetrovsk and Lvov Marines "- wrote in his Varsegov Twitter. "Dnipro raised over fuel depot flag of Russia. That's why the fight began. Defeated seems dnepropetrovtsy "- he said. "Now they came out of the airport and with the Russian flag moving in the direction of the city Anthracite", - concluded the journalist. Оригинал статьи: russian.rt.com...

q99.it...



will update on this once confirmed



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 05:39 AM
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No luck for Kiev today, looks like they have lost another plane, SU-24 this time.



Representatives from the city militia Gorlivka stated that knocked Ukrainian Su-24 and captured the pilot. An eyewitness told RT, that pilot being taken to the police department Gorlovki. Local media reported that the plane was shot down using MANPADS. Оригинал статьи: russian.rt.com...

q99.it...


video is about fighting in Gorlivka, a few hours ago. One of these planes was shot down.






marqs ‏@MarQs__ 36m
BREAKING #Ukraine pilot captured after his SU-24 shot down over #Gorlovka this morning

/r/UkrainianConflict ‏@UkraineConflict 10m
Unconfirmed reports that an Su-24 has been downed over #Gorlovka

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posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

So what.

US can send weapons and money to Ukraine Kiev puppet. That does not escalate the situation.

Only Russian weapons escalate. Very funny.

West is sending mercenaries in addition to weapons. You have no idea what is happening.

Your views are meaningless and misleading.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: GargIndia

Here's a link for Independent Media and eye witness reports to what is REALLY going on. You'll notice the Propaganda machine of the West is not telling the truth. As Usual!

The site is in Russian but there is a UK flag in the top right that will translate it it though Google to English!

Truth Explaining Facts / Facts Supporting Truth



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: Hilux1996




The site is in Russian but there is a UK flag in the top right that will translate it it though Google to English!


Looking at the site and where it is registered this site is not only in Russian, but more than likely being run by the Russians.


Agency officially registered as mass media in the Republic of Abkhazia, July 18, 2011 (registration number 55 according to the order of the Minister of Justice of the Republic of Abkhazia number 129 of 18.07.2011).


anna-news.info...

Interestingly enough when you look at Abkhazia something interesting is found...


. As the Soviet Union began to disintegrate towards the end of the 1980s, ethnic tensions grew between the Abkhaz and Georgians over Georgia's moves towards independence. This led to the 1992–1993 War in Abkhazia that resulted in a Georgian military defeat, de facto independence of Abkhazia and the mass exodus and ethnic cleansing of the Georgian population from Abkhazia.



In August 2008, the sides again fought during the South Ossetia War, which was followed by the formal recognition of Abkhazia by Russia, the annulment of the 1994 ceasefire agreement and the termination of the UN and OSCE missions.[17][18] On 28 August 2008, the Parliament of Georgia passed a resolution declaring Abkhazia a Russian-occupied territory.[19][20] A major part of international community considers Abkhazia to be occupied by Russian military. Russia does not allow the EUMM monitors to enter Abkhazia.[21]


en.wikipedia.org...

Not exactly an independent view of what's going on when you seem to be influenced and more than likely protected by Russia.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Possibly. But it's nice to have another view of what is going on. Western news is not exactly reliable when they are trying to push a covert Agenda. Of course the same could be said of Russian controlled news.

I'm at a stalemate when it comes to the Propaganda produced by the West and the East. But the past events of American, British and European Wars and interventions have shown Western Propaganda is not to be trusted. I'm from the UK but I do not believe what the UK Government and Media says all the time. They have been caught out blatantly lying about World Events many many times!



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 11:36 AM
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Oh nice.

Protesters turn over Russian diplomats’ cars, drag down flag at embassy in Kiev (PHOTOS)




Anyone else want to deny that there's NOT an element of extreme nazi radicalism in Ukraine (Kiev)?


Looks like Russians are going have to continue what they do best. . . Go Nazi Hunting.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: Hilux1996




I'm at a stalemate when it comes to the Propaganda produced by the West and the East. But the past events of American, British and European Wars and interventions have shown Western Propaganda is not to be trusted.


And as we have seen lately Russian media sources have no problem with pumping out the propaganda, but for the most part you have to find that balance between the two sides because more than likely that is what is really happening.

It is a shame the people of Russia only see what their gov't wants them to see, but I guess that is how you keep control of the people.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Hilux1996




I'm at a stalemate when it comes to the Propaganda produced by the West and the East. But the past events of American, British and European Wars and interventions have shown Western Propaganda is not to be trusted.


And as we have seen lately Russian media sources have no problem with pumping out the propaganda, but for the most part you have to find that balance between the two sides because more than likely that is what is really happening.

It is a shame the people of Russia only see what their gov't wants them to see, but I guess that is how you keep control of the people.


That's funny that sounds familiar!

I'll correct that statement!

It is a shame the people of America only see what their gov't wants them to see, but I guess that is how you keep control of the people.

That's better!



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: SurrenderingAmerica




Anyone else want to deny that there's NOT an element of extreme nazi radicalism in Ukraine (Kiev)?


Or, they are Ukraine citizens that are just tired of what Russia is doing to their country, and who can blame them for being upset.

It couldn't be that, because we all know Russia has nothing to do with what is happening in Ukraine.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Hilux1996




It is a shame the people of America only see what their gov't wants them to see, but I guess that is how you keep control of the people.


Actually you are wrong with that, because we have a choice as to what and who we want believe, as for Russians they have the gov't that runs the media so you really don't have a choice.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I see ONLY one flag hanging on the front of the Russian embassy gate - Right sector. Surrounded by swastikas. . . NOT a Ukrainian flag.


I see overturned cars with swastikas painted on them.


I see many Right sector flags waving in the crowd. (I would venture to say even more Right sector flags than Ukrainian flags)


. . . Is this what Ukraine stands for?

Funny how the western media steer clear of this fact - if they showed these, do you think Ukraine govt would have support? Do you think Americans would support Nazi radicalism?


Yeah, attack Russian media when you damn well know that U.S. & UK media doesn't show this side. . .
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posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 12:56 PM
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U.S. condemns protesters' assault on Russian embassy in Kiev



“The US condemns the attack on the embassy of the Russian Federation in Kiev and calls on the Ukrainian government to fulfill its obligations under the Vienna convention to ensure the necessary security measures,” US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, as quoted by RIA Novosti.



Thank god no Russian ambassadors are in there or this would become Odessa 2.0 - would be hard to explain dead ambassadors lol.

>EDIT< There is 1 embassy rep & rest are normal staff. Protesters have entered the building. Ukrainian journalists are also present inside.
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posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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I see ONLY one flag hanging on the front of the Russian embassy gate - Right sector. Surrounded by swastikas. . . NOT a Ukrainian flag.


I see overturned cars with swastikas painted on them.


And you don't think that could have been put there by anyone, and you have no proof that it was done by Right sector only assumptions.

Again that can be done by anyone including Pro Russians that are looking for a way to cause trouble, something they are well too familiar with in Ukraine.



Funny how the western media steer clear of this fact - if they showed these, do you think Ukraine govt would have support? Do you think Americans would support Nazi radicalism?


Steer clear of what exactly?

And what exactly makes you think Ukraine gov't supports Nazi radicalism?

And you do understand that western media isn't going to consider someone putting swastikas on a fence in front of the Russian embassy breaking news, but if that had been the Jewish Embassy then they would have something to report about.



Yeah, attack Russian media when you damn well know that U.S. & UK media doesn't show this side. . .


And the Russian media doesn't show their people anything that isn't approved by the Russian government so they have no idea of what Russia is really doing in Ukraine.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 06:05 PM
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And you don't think that could have been put there by anyone, and you have no proof that it was done by Right sector only assumptions.


I don't believe your assertion/argument for a second.

I hardly doubt this is the work of 'pro-Russian' supporters:







Wanna know why?

Here's what happens when someone is suspected of being a 'pro-Russian & someone shouts: "he's a 'pro-Russian"
He's a 'pro-Russia'! (video)
^^^ This was today at the Russian embassy in Kiev.

Hell, even euromaidanPR isn't even spouting that 'pro-Russians' had a hand in this pre-planned protest. So it's going to be up to you to prove that they did. . .




And what exactly makes you think Ukraine gov't supports Nazi radicalism?

Here have a read:
Right Sector


It started with:
Ukraine security officials mull banning Right Sector radical movement – report


Then when it came time to disband:


"The explicitly neo-Nazi Right Sector on Monday blocked Ukraine’s Supreme Court and …
… led out the judges one by one shouting ‘Lustration.’ Some of the judges were shoved, punched and spat upon. The nationalists demanded early adoption of lustration legislation that would ban former allies of ousted President Viktor Yanukovych from getting government jobs."


So what happens when you 'unsuccessfully' ban the Right sector?

Ukraine, Right Sector ban all incorrect-thinking judges and officials

. . . and if thats not good enough for you, here:


"On Monday activists of the Right Sector group disrupted a convention of Ukrainian judges in Kiev. They blocked the Supreme Court building and led out the judges one by one shouting “Lustration”. Some of the judges were shoved, punched and spat upon. The nationalists demanded early adoption of lustration legislation that would ban former allies of ousted President Viktor Yanukovych from getting government jobs."

source


Basically, not only were they unsuccessfully disbanded & unarmed - they formed into a Political party which ran for the new Ukrainian presidency (came in 3rd place).

So, either:
A.) They have the support of Ukrainian govt
B.) The Ukrainian govt fear them (and favors them 'under the gun')
C.) They HEAVILY influence the decisions of the new Ukrainian govt.

Choose your poison.




And you do understand that western media isn't going to consider someone putting swastikas on a fence in front of the Russian embassy breaking news

And you would think that U.S./UK MSM would report both participants from each side of the fence. But nope, just Russphobia & ignore anything from Ukrainian side - who cares that Nazi radicalism is running rampant. Not like Russians have bad blood with them and now it's on their border.

Lets disregard that there's MASSIVE defection of the Ukrainian forces - to the point where they're driving tanks to Russia in order to escape the NaziGuard. . . errrr Nat'l Guard.



And the Russian media doesn't show their people anything that isn't approved by the Russian government so they have no idea of what Russia is really doing in Ukraine.


What is your angle? What aren't the Russian govt showing their people in regards to the Ukraine crisis?

- Nazism?
- chechnyans?
- Ukrainian defection (BIG TIME)?
- Obsolete tanks (allegedly)?
- Illegally storming of Russian embassy?
- White Phosphorus?
- Fighter jets?
- Planes with Paratroopers?

Again, your argument is flawed.
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posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 06:20 PM
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. . . when it comes to Nazis





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posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica

Oh nice.

Protesters turn over Russian diplomats’ cars, drag down flag at embassy in Kiev (PHOTOS)




Anyone else want to deny that there's NOT an element of extreme nazi radicalism in Ukraine (Kiev)?


Looks like Russians are going have to continue what they do best. . . Go Nazi Hunting.


Nazism? Unquestionable:
-They have all power in hands of their leader (Putin)
-They are highly militaristic and nationalistic
-there is a fuher youth organization called "Nashi"
-They just annexed a border region under false pretext of protecting people who speak their language (Crimea)
-they massacred some undesirable ethic groups (Chechens) and generally all not fully white people are being chased out of Moscow

Yes, clearly Nazis. However, in this case this vandalism is an anti-Nazi act.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: Shadow1024

If you're going to pick 1 thing out of the list - at least make it believable.

. . . and with that said, all do respect Shadow - GTFO!


Last I've heard, Crimea isn't enjoying a civil war. Plus they just got done with celebrations, big turn out.
TarTars are being respected.

If you're going to distort, allow me to give you a hand as well:

- Obama Rebuilding Grassroots Army

source (attack source, I don't mind - I'm prob missing other relevant sources as well lol)

- Treaty to accept Crimea, Sevastopol to Russian Federation signed



Russia will guarantee that the people who live in Crimea and Sevastopol will be given the right to keep their native language as well as the means and conditions for learning it.


Yeah, unlike Ukraine's new gov't who refuses to allow Russian language nationwide. (yet in America - universities/colleges teach it)




However, in this case this vandalism is an anti-Nazi act.

Bwhahaha!

Nope, no Nazi symbolism at all! When in doubt. . . blame Scapegoat Russia.
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