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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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6 members if NazGuard who surrendered to resistance forces in Slavyansk as they did not want to take a part in criminal activites of Kiev Junta against people of Novorossiya. This is a press conference from yesterday. You can use translation tool but I will try to find translated version of this conference as well.





posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 10:07 PM
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www.counterpunch.org...




Ukrainian nationalists turned largely toward fascism, specifically toward a concept of “integral nationalism” that, in the absence of an acceptable national government, manifested itself in a national will residing in the spirit of its adherents, not expressed by the state or restrained by its laws, but embodied by a charismatic leader and exercised through his organization, whose legitimacy supersedes that of the state and whose commitment to violence makes it a law unto itself.

That leader, at least for many Ukrainians of the fascist persuasion, was Stepan Bandera. The organization, his OUN-B faction.

This state of affairs persists in today’s successor to the OUN-B, Pravy Sektor, with its fascist trappings, leader cult, and paramilitary arm. The “mainstreaming” of the second major fascist grouping, Svoboda, looks more like a strategic repackaging in order to strive for greater electoral success by hiding its fascist antecedents.

So, unfortunately for apologists for the current Kyiv regime, the correct description of these two groups is not “nationalist” or “ultranationalist”; it is “fascist”.
This year, 15,000 people marched by torchlight in Kyiv on January 1 to commemorate Bandera.



and this is for those of you who do not know much about history of OUN-B, Stepan Bandera and UPA and their role in WW2.


This was a battle flag of UPA, the same one Right Sector is using today.




In 1943 UPA military units carried out large-scale ethnic cleansing against Polish and Jewish populations






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posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 10:54 PM
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more from Slavyansk the city which is suffering the most from shelling by Junta forces.
Slavyansk is turning into new Stalingrad.


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posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: cosmonova

Interesting there were those whom have being claiming that Junta forces arent attacking innocent civilians and using them as human shield?
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: victor7

The only paranoia and fear I see is coming from Russia, not the West.


Have to disagree.
The only paranoia and fear I see is coming from is from, the west and that can be seen just in there behavior towards Russia and there own puppet controlled own states trough the way they were behaving on DDay.

If not the paranoia from the west can been seen and noticed in the western news outlets.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 01:04 AM
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Latest video from VICE on Ukrainian political situation -- specifically on whether an oligarch like Poroshenko can satisfy the anti-corruption demands of Euromaidan's core movement.




posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 01:20 AM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

Everything out of Putin's mouth is west this, NATO expansion that. How many decades have NATO nations been on Russia's border? During those decades how many times have their been issues with NATO / individual nation forces?

To all of a sudden, after 20 years, start talking about Poland and the Baltic states being a part of NATO, having issues with Ukraine and the EU, he sure looks paranoid from this side of the fence.

Its not western / NATO forces that are breaching Russian airspace. Russia started that dog and pony show about 2 years ago and have stepped it up since.

Putin was paranoid about losing access to the Ukraine naval facilities in Crimea. As for the media comment what does it say when all external media sources / sources of information are not allowed to be broadcast? IF the Russian people are as supportive of Putin and his actions as claimed, why is there a need to stop all foreign media reports / refusal to allow Russian sites to criticize Putin's actions?

Aren't the Russian people intelligent enough to determine if the non Russian sources are valid or propaganda?

That's what I am seeing anyways.



if you don't mind can you layout what you are seeing from your side of the fence about the west being paranoid?



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 01:20 AM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: victor7

The only paranoia and fear I see is coming from Russia, not the West.


Have to disagree.
The only paranoia and fear I see is coming from is from, the west and that can be seen just in there behavior towards Russia and there own puppet controlled own states trough the way they were behaving on DDay.

If not the paranoia from the west can been seen and noticed in the western news outlets.


Are you by chance posting from St. Petersburg? You know the PR consultancies have many more offices these days. If you do not like it here in Dubai, I am sure you could find one in Hurghada. I hear it is lovely there but sadly I am incapable of return.

I suppose I might not consider Russian state-controlled media paranoid if it were not for all these relentless exposes on RT regarding old Cold War contingencies by the west -- like this one on 'Gladio', a supposed NATO contingency to kill leftist political candidates in Europe.




posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 01:25 AM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: cosmonova

Interesting there were those whom have being claiming that Junta forces arent attacking innocent civilians and using them as human shield?


When military forces intentionally place themselves into civilians areas with civilians around and then engage the opposing forces it creates a problem.

We saw the Taliban do this in the beginning of the Afghan war. They would stockpile ammo / supplies in restricted areas, like schools and religious buildings / hospitals. They would also engage allied forces from those same locations. Hamas uses the same tactic when they lob rockets into Israel.

Besides when you have Putin claiming on tv they will use human shields in order to force Ukraine soldiers to kill there own before they get to Russian / pro Russian forces....



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 01:27 AM
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a reply to: ALoveSupreme

He certainly has a huge task in front of him. He has gone on the record regarding Crimea as well so apparently that is not a done deal.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 05:16 AM
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originally posted by: ALoveSupreme
Latest video from VICE on Ukrainian political situation -- specifically on whether an oligarch like Poroshenko can satisfy the anti-corruption demands of Euromaidan's core movement.






anti-corruption is the least of problems he is facing. There is a civil war in Former Ukraine right now as we speak. And it is becoming bloodier and more destructive. Humanitarian crisis has just started, number of refuges is growing on daily basis. Cities and towns have been destroyed by shelling, air strikes are becoming more intense, etc.
Number of civilian deaths is growing.
If this continues well within a winter (I have no doubt it will, and it will spread on some other regions in my opinion) it will turn into disaster.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 05:20 AM
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Monday, June 9, 2014 6:28 AM GMT

Ukraine's newly-installed president has called for all fighting in the east of the country to stop by the end of this week.
Petro Poroshenko's demand for a cease fire comes as reports came in of more shelling on the rebellious town of Sloviansk.
Russian language television filmed what it said was evidence of Ukrainian artillery gunfire.
It also said locals who have been hiding in their cellars have been without running water for days. .
Poroshenko – who was sworn in as president on Saturday – has also called for Ukrainian state borders to be restored so that all Ukrainian citizens can be assured of their security irrespective of their political preferences.
Poroshenko was speaking after meeting with a contact group in Kyiv formed to implement a peace plan for Ukraine
He has already discussed his ceasefire proposals with Russian President Vladimir Putin while they both attended the recent Normandy D-Day commemorations.


nr.news-republic.com...



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 05:28 AM
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Russian Prosecutors Office has officially launced an investigation into breach of Geneva Convention about protection of civilians by Ukrainian Forces in Ukraine. Statement by the spokeseman of Prosecutors Office Vladimir Markin





posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: cosmonova

Oh this is just too funny.

Question to Mr. Putin -
Anything else in the box Pandora?

Putin booted the idea of the UN groups investigating events in Crimea. I don't see this initiative going any farther than it did with Russia's refusal.

However if he wants to open that can of worms, actions by Russia in Ukraine, including the most recent fighting the Russians are complaining about, are going to be brought up. Evidence will most likely be shown in its entirety with regards to what Russia has been up to. Putin hopefully understands that if he makes a claim he is going to have to support it. Something he failed to do with the UN with the mess kicked off. Russia was asked many times to submit evidence to support their accusations and they never did.

just like the "letter" supposedly signed by Yanukovych asking for Russian assistance. The letter was unsigned, it was never produced, and the request said nothing about seizing only Crimea and then annexing it.

Like the invasion of Ukraine, this is going to blow up in Putin's face.


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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 07:45 AM
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an excelleny program and very good at discussing the facts of the situation. a guy from Cleveland, boston and Moscow.
rt.com...
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rt.com/
edit on 06/02/2010 by letscit because: trying to fix links that work everywhere but here. huh?

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 07:19 PM
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Melitopol is a city in Zaporizhia Oblast of the southeastern Ukraine and this is from yesterday.
Parents of soldiers blocking military convoy heading to Donetsk.



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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: cosmonova

Stopping convoys seems to be only thing they can do now. Has Moscow abandoned them already ??

The election of new President Poroshenko brings no joy as he is basically a Right Sector man with a suit and tie and businessman tag. This is a threatening prospect for Moscow because as soon as Kiev gains slight upper hand on Eastern separatists, an application for NATO membership will be thrown in.

What tools does Putin has in the bag of KGB tricks to turn the game into his favor. Cannot leave those who stood up for him..........to face heavy arms of a standard military !!

Caring little for foot soldiers used to be Russian approach in warfare.

Thought Russia has changed in last 20 or so years.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: cosmonova

Oh this is just too funny.

Question to Mr. Putin -
Anything else in the box Pandora?

Putin booted the idea of the UN groups investigating events in Crimea. I don't see this initiative going any farther than it did with Russia's refusal.

However if he wants to open that can of worms, actions by Russia in Ukraine, including the most recent fighting the Russians are complaining about, are going to be brought up. Evidence will most likely be shown in its entirety with regards to what Russia has been up to. Putin hopefully understands that if he makes a claim he is going to have to support it. Something he failed to do with the UN with the mess kicked off. Russia was asked many times to submit evidence to support their accusations and they never did.

just like the "letter" supposedly signed by Yanukovych asking for Russian assistance. The letter was unsigned, it was never produced, and the request said nothing about seizing only Crimea and then annexing it.

Like the invasion of Ukraine, this is going to blow up in Putin's face.



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"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation
A White Paper on violations of human rights and the rule of law in Ukraine that have occurred since November 2013.

The book is divided into six chapters:
- Violations of Human rights;
- Interference by the European Union and the United States;
- Weapons and violent methods used by the protesters;
- Restrictions on basic freedoms and crackdown on dissidents;
- Discrimination based on ethnic background;
- Religious persecution.

Each chapter consists of a detailed chronology of events.

This essential document is available in the English and Russian versions."

For those interested the document is available for read in PDF format and it has been update all the time with new documents.
This one includes events in period November 2013-March2014. Will check if updated version is available including
Odessa massacre, Donetsk air strike, etc

Link to document
www.voltairenet.org...



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: cosmonova

Stopping convoys seems to be only thing they can do now. Has Moscow abandoned them already ??

The election of new President Poroshenko brings no joy as he is basically a Right Sector man with a suit and tie and businessman tag. This is a threatening prospect for Moscow because as soon as Kiev gains slight upper hand on Eastern separatists, an application for NATO membership will be thrown in.

What tools does Putin has in the bag of KGB tricks to turn the game into his favor. Cannot leave those who stood up for him..........to face heavy arms of a standard military !!

Caring little for foot soldiers used to be Russian approach in warfare.

Thought Russia has changed in last 20 or so years.



the event I posted is in the area which is under Ukrainian control and these people are Ukrainians whose kids are just being departured to Donetsk region to fight against NAF.
Putin and fellas in Kremlin are too smart to get trapped in US controlled military action in Novorossiya.
This is a big game we are witnessing right now and it is just a beginning of it. This is a game for a total new world order against one of the main and the biggest opponents, Russia. The war for total domination of the world by Western powers lead by US has begun. But that is for another topic. Ukraine is just one of the battlefields.
Unfortunately the war in Ukraine has just started and will intensify.
Time is on Russian side though in my opinion, Kiev has not much time left. Economy collapsing, this operation cost money, no money or very little coming from Donetsk and Lugansk region which are major industrial areas.
Add to that winter will be knocking on the door very soon and Kiev will not be able to play games with owning money for gas, etc. And war in winter and I mean a real winter is a recipe for disaster, humanitarian catastrophe.
That is one of the things Kiev is trying to avoid and complete military operation before that time.
The one thing they miscalculated is the growing number of NAF forces and lack of fighting skills within Junta forces.
2 months later Slavyansk is still well and trully under control of NAF. All Junta is able to do is to shell the city from distance which is not a very good image to the world with growing number of civilian casualties.
Add to that the fact that Kiev is not controlling about 150km of the border with Russia which means free entry for volunteers and weapon.
In any case this military action was a big mistake by White House buffoons who expected Russia to take a bite and get involved with regular army which would be a mistake in my opinion. But as I said fellas in Kremlin are too smart for that. Lets see what is going to be next move by White House.




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