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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: letscit

This is what happens when you put so much dependence for your energy production in the hands of other nations.

I hope the EU learns from this and leaves Russian to serve at most 20% of its needs. Even that is allot.

The EU and the US should look to exploit their own reserves that they keep locked up for a doomsday scenario. They are not going to make it to that doomsday if they keep down this road.




posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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Shale gas in Poland and Ukraine: a great potential and an uncertain future



“The development of shale gas plays has become a 'game changer' for the U.S. natural gas market,” reads a 2011 report by the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Once predicted to become the largest natural gas importer in the world, the U.S. are now said to become self-sufficient in natural gas supplies by the 2030s.


the picture is getting clearer.

Prospects of shale gas in Poland and Ukraine


Poland


Recent studies revealed that Poland is the country with the largest reserves of shale gas in Europe. The area of shale gas accumulation is vast, stretching from the northern region of Pomerania through the central-eastern regions of Mazovia and Podlasie, to the Lublin region in the east. The analyses conducted have identified three main basins (the Baltic, Podlasie, and Lublin) in the respective areas.



The first, extremely enthusiastic, estimates were published in April 2011 by the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA). The EIA estimated that Poland’s three shale gas basins contained the total of 5.3 trillion cubic meters of technically recoverable shale gas, promising to Poland a prosperous future based on gas revenues.



Ukraine


Ukraine’s total shale gas deposits are estimated at around 7 trillion cubic meters, which places the country at the third place in Europe after Poland and Norway. There are two major shale gas fields: Yuzivs’ka, located in Eastern Ukraine (Donets’k and Kharkiv regions) in the Dnipro-Donbas petroleum basin, and Oles’ka in Western Ukraine (L’viv and Ivano-Frankivs’k regions), part of the Poland’s Lublin gas basin. Yuzivs’ka field is said to contain around 2 trillion cubic meters of gas, while Oles’ka’s deposits are estimated at 1.5 trillion cubic meters.



The two shale gas fields have already found their concessionaires. On January, 25 Ukraine (a joint company of the state-owned NAK Nadra-Yuzivs’ka and the private SPK-Geosrvis) signed a 50-year tripartite production separation agreement (PSA) with Royal Dutch Shell. The agreement stipulates Shell’s exclusive rights for the exploration and tax-exempt industrial extraction of shale gas on more than 1000 square km of the Yuzivs’ka field.



The US Ambassador to Ukraine John Tefft said that the joint production of shale gas with Chevron, for which the PSA is still pending due to the resistance of local administrations, and Shell will help Ukraine become “self-sufficient and energy independent”.

www.pecob.eu...



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posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: letscit




as relevant to the thread, as the title of this thread is to reality in the world.


Okay, that sure cleared it all up for me...



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posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 01:52 PM
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*** GET ON TOPIC PLEASE ***

Your posts will be removed and you may be Post Banned.



posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: tadaman



Here is an interesting video which discusses Russian propaganda and the attempt to influence media.




posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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Question by The Saker: Did the Border Control Headquarters really fall to Donbas Army?

Juan's reply: Yes, done deal since yesterday morning. Lots of vids showing Donbas Army allowing the prisoners to leave after they changed in to civilian clothes and some vids showing Donbas Army going through the building and armories. Found was a got a ton of weapons and ammo including RPG's and MG's, at least two BTR's in good condition, several trucks and GAZ jeeps, at least one amphibious tracked vehicle that runs and a treasure trove of documents.

It was the officers who fought, the young boys mostly didn't or at best half heartedly. In actual fact most of the conscripts (Border Service and Militsiya are mostly draftees like the Army) were locked in a room until the fighting was over.

Donbas also took two army bases that same day. So score for that day is Donbas lost Krasni Limon and took Border Control HQ, two army bases and took control of about 90 kilometers of border when the actual border guards on duty loaded up all in to their cars and went to Rostov across the border with their families.

Donbas Army also disabled two T-64's, read shot them up pretty seriously. They can be repaired even though one had a pretty substantial fire on the rear deck over the engine/trans compartment. Both had road wheels shot off with their suspension arms and one had both drive sprockets mangled by RPG fire which means the final drive from the transmission is also damaged. Another T-64 took several antitank rifle hits on his main gun. The main tube was not penetrated but the impacts will have damaged the barrel internally and it will have to be replaced.

The Ukes also lost at lest 7 BTR's, more than one BMP, several trucks including one full of national guards that was hit with an RPG and burned. Donbas Army didn't shoot the wounded and burning boys spilling out of the truck.

The Ukes also lost, confirmed, 2 Mi24's and one Su25 with one Mi24 and one SU25 as probables. At least one other Mi24 was damaged by anti aircraft fire and was forced to land hard. Most everyone on that bird was wounded, don't know how bad the bird was damaged.

All in all the Ukes got a bloody nose. Donbas Army losses were not small especially considering their wounded being killed in hospital.

We just listened to Poroshenko's inauguration speech and it's basically a declaration of war against Novorossiya. He intends to finish 'cleaning Donetsk and Lugansk' etc etc. No federalization, no negotiation. Putin has his answer.

PS: If the link for the evacuations from Slovyansk is dead here's one that works: www.youtube.com...
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vineyardsaker.blogspot.ch... uan.html



posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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June 8th combat SITREP by "Juan"



1. Confirmed view live stream Grad missile battery firing salvos outskirts Slavyansk early morning 08.08.2014

2. Reports of Russian armored columns crossing in the Novorossiya at sunup 08.06.2014 are false.

3. Strong bombardment of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk still. Ukraine tanks firing in to living areas both cities as part of bombard.

4. Civilian casualties reported from on going artillery attack Slavyansk, 15.2 cm howitzer and 12.2 cm mortar in use with lighter field guns and aircraft.

5. Reports of 1944 IS 152 renovated by Novorossiya Army are false.

6. Heavy fighting village outskirts of Slavyansk 08.45 08.06.14.

7. краснолиманскому Army Novorossiya attack national guard/right sector units guard post near canal. Strong fighting 11:15 08.06.14.

8. Reports military park Ukraine Артемовске taken Army Novorossiya night 07-08 June 2014. Unconfirmed by onsight inspection.

9. On sight report Grad missile battery fires on Slavyansk from Kramachuk Mountain. Confirmed.

10. Strong armor column stopped outside Lugansk City. No activity from column as of 9:47 08.06.14.

vineyardsaker.blogspot.ch... uan.html



posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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Blindfolded, brought to knees’: Russian Zvezda TV crew abducted near Slavyansk


Ukraine’s National Guard have detained two journalists from Russian TV channel Zvezda at a military roadblock near the city of Slavyansk. According to their driver, during a routine check they were blindfolded and taken to an undisclosed location.


The area around Slavyansk is gripped by increased violence after Kiev intensified what it calls an ‘anti-terrorist’ operation against anti-government activists and militia who have taken control of the eastern regions of the country as a mark of protest against the Kiev authorities


rt.com...



posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 03:59 PM
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The story always differs from the fact, in the real story, behind the majority, if not all events, in history, so when did this actually start and what could be the outcome?

September 1 1939 is the start of WW2, lets be picky September 3 1939, correct date that England and France declared war on Germany.
When Hitler invaded Poland he thought that the allies, would back off from conflict, as they had on every previous occasion.–the Rhineland, Austria, Czechoslovakia.

When did this really start and why? February 2014 or 1783? EU, Eurasian Union?

It’s being, slowly played out for a reason………………?



posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 05:50 PM
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Menatime in Slavyansk



“The shells broke just near the central square. They hit residential houses, a furniture factory, a cafe and communications post,” an unnamed representative of the local city council told Itar-Tass. “There are victims among the civilians and some people received shrapnel wounds.”

“At this time there were many people in the center because of the Pentecost Mass in the nearby church has just ended,” the source added.

Four people were killed in the result of the shelling, a small girl among them. Seven people were taken to hospital with injuries, RT's correspondent Andrey Krasnoschyokov reports from the scene.





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posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: tadaman



Here is an interesting video which discusses Russian propaganda and the attempt to influence media.





from the same guys, another one. Scary, considering how much is US Government involved in meddling in Ukraine.
On behalf of its taxpayers of course.


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posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 06:13 PM
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another one on US meddling in Ukraine




posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 08:12 PM
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originally posted by: cosmonova
another one on US meddling in Ukraine
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Sorry the video is fantasy China was the one that wanted Ukraine food exports there doing it all over the planet they have a billion people to feed. There creating farms not only in Ukraine but poland and lets not forget many african countries China doesnt have the land needed for agriculture. As far as Ukraine hurting US exports 2014 is going to be a record year for agricultural exports. See the demand for food far outweighs the supply. So your video is trying to sell you a lie and a bad one at that. Before you post videos making outrageous claims you might want to verify them first. Oh never mind i forgot you believe anything approved by Russian media.

www.reuters.com...



posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 08:21 PM
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UKRAINE Slovyansk: Terrorists are preparing to undermine with the capacity of toxic substances
censor.net.ua... ^ | 30/05/14 11:14
Posted on 5/30/2014 7:52:34 AM by UMCRevMom@aol.com

The Ministry of Defence announces training terrorists EXPLOSIVE CONTAINERS with TOXIC substances Slovyansk Donetsk region.

At a press conference, said acting Defense Minister Mykhailo Koval inform Censor NO referring News Donbass.

"The separatists are preparing to undermine capacity with toxic substances," - he said, noting that it is about the Slavic Donetsk region.

Koval said that the forces of anti-terrorist operations are taking the necessary measures to prevent this threat.

In addition, he recalled that the separatists continue to fire at residential areas Sloviansk of self-propelled artillery installation "Nona" and mortars .

Koval said that all these facts are documented.

See also "Tsenzor.NET": Security forces killed a terrorist base Slovyansk Source: censor.net.ua...



posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 09:45 PM
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meantime in Lviv, Western Ukraine



The body of Robert Kuwalek, one of Poland’s foremost Holocaust scholars, was found days after he had been reported missing in Ukraine.
Kuwalek, 47, had been reported missing Thursday while on a visit to Lviv. His body was found over the weekend.
The Polish consulate in Lviv confirmed his death, but no details about the cause of death were released.
Kuwalek, who was not Jewish, was an expert on the Holocaust in southeastern Poland and what is now western Ukraine. Based in Lublin, Kuwalek was a curator and educator at the State Museum at the former Majdanek concentration and death camp and also had served as director of the museum at the former Belzec death camp.


Read more: www.jta.org...



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