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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on May, 17 2014 @ 11:27 PM
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posted on May, 17 2014 @ 11:36 PM
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posted on May, 18 2014 @ 12:18 AM
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Well looks like People are starting to remove separatists from different areas of eastern Ukraine now. I think there fake referendum hurt them many locals know an overwhelming majority want to remain with Ukraine. And i think there fake election is making locals mad.Putin was right they shouldnt have done there election.

donbass.ua...



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 12:24 AM
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It also looks like Russia is looking for a way out of the mess they made. Remember they didnt want to have anything to do with the NAZIs in Kiev. Now there changing there tune and apparently will spaek with them and even now try to work with them??




Moscow says it will consider Kiev’s proposal on taking joint steps to stabilize the situation on the Russian-Ukrainian border, Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Grigoriy Karasin told RIA Novosti.

“In principle, we have normal working contacts with our Ukrainian colleagues. So, if this appeal is grounded, we will react appropriately. But first, we have to examine the letter,” he said.

Earlier, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry sent Moscow a note saying that such joint measures are needed because of the “significant deterioration of the situation” on the border caused by “the stepping up of activities of trans-border organized criminal groups.”



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 12:28 AM
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Thought you guys might want to see this its the roadblocks locations on google maps also gives you some perspective.

mapsengine.google.com...



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 01:14 AM
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originally posted by: cosmonova
more on Odessa massacre, Junta is trying hard to cover its role in this but more and more details are leaking
and hopefully soon enough will be very clear who is behind this atrocity.



This is one of the better compilations of the footage I have seen so far.

But the assertion that the provocateurs in the pro-Russian crowd were actually with Right Sector is not backed by any solid evidence -- at least not any given here.

Yes, the police commander's presence and relationship to the provocateurs is very suspect. But it in no way proves their actual political affiliation!

I also believe that the men shooting that day were planted. But right now, strategy wise, it makes much more sense that Russian agitators would have done this.

If Right Sector just wanted to get rid of the pro-Russians protestors in Odessa, why not do it themselves?

Why agitate their pro-Maidan allies in such an extreme way, actually shooting at and killing some of them? That is a very extreme means of agitation with plenty of blowback risk. And the gains are short term with huge possible political losses.

Russian media coverage of the killings in Odessa did more to agitate fears in East Ukraine then all other previous escalations. It was a watershed moment, a prime opportunity for moral outrage by the Russian side.

Unless Right Sector is extremely inept politically, they would never hand the Russians such a victory.



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 08:42 AM
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i think Kiev torched that building with neutrals inside. I say neutrals because they were probably Ukrainian but didn't report the pro Russian activity, thus they were collaborators!

It was a warning to all Ukrainians, if you aide or assist the pro-Russians you will be punished!



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 09:21 AM
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I am very open to ANY evidence that the Kyiv government or Right Sector was behind those provocateurs.

(I keep coming back to Kyiv as one of the most watershed moments in this crisis.)

But right now, the most suspicious (and largely unexplained) element is the collusion of the police commander. I cannot assume that he was loyal to the new interim government. Herein lies one of our greatest information deficits.



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: ALoveSupreme

Theirs two sides to every story as they say the BBC talked to protesters.
www.bbc.com...



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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This is great news that the people are rising up and pushing the pro russians out now. Send them all to crimea and tell them to never come back to ukraine proper or risk death for spying. Then build a wall between crimea and ukraine cutting it off totally so its russia problem from now on.



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 01:22 PM
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This is on an arrest in Crimea buy Russians for spying of a Ukrainian director. Apparently alot of journalists are also being arrested and sent to Moscow.
www.hollywoodreporter.com...



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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Funny Russian news got caught lying again.

inforesist.org...



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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Here is the future for Crimea the tatars are not going to cooperate with the Russians in Crimea and they arent leaving this is going to cause problems. Here there commemorating the 70th anniversary of there expulsion from Crimea.

euromaidanpr.com...



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 02:39 PM
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Something totally off-topic:

Asen_Y2K : Your last reply here was on February the 28th, you where online today, and you where past week, why can't you post any updates anymore? Being it your thread.



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 03:37 PM
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It seems that the 'Novorussia' movement now has its own Leni Riefenstahl.

The young and beauteous Alena Berezovskaya, rumored mistress of none other than Viktor Yanukovych, recently debuted her film 'Ukraina.ru' on the same named website.







Among other things, the film alleges that the very identity of Ukraine as a nation independent from Russia is a largely German invention that originates from the time of Otto von Bismark (and uses a fabricated quote from Bismark to drive home this point at its start).




The Kiev Maidan has roots older than a century. After all, its true purpose is to split a united people. That was precisely the strategy maintained by Austria-Hungary back in World War I, inciting nationalist sentiments in Ukrainians. Fascist Germany also relied on traitors from among the Ukrainian nationalists. The West achieved its purpose in 2014 when people raised their hands against their own brothers in Ukraine in 2014.


The film was announced in a press conference by Dmitry Kiselyov, the Kremlin's main propagandist.

From article - slon.ru...

edit on 18-5-2014 by ALoveSupreme because: typos are easy to make when you have nails and a touchcreen



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 06:07 PM
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This is interesting it shows Russia was following a plan it set up back in 2013 for Ukraine. This document was leaked in the summer of last year and explains many of Putins actions.

www.reuters.com...



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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A phone opinion poll conducted by the German TV channel N-TV has yielded a surprise finding that 89 percent of its viewers sympathize with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s German pollpolicy on Ukraine, RIA Novosti reported.
A poll on Russia’s handling of the Ukraine crisis by the Berlin-based N-TV went spectacularly wrong in the channel’s opinion, when the majority of its audience said “yes” to the question “Do you have understanding for Putin’s policy?”
The response was indeed so baffling that the poll was wiped off the N-TV home page the same day, but not before some people managed to make screenshots of it, which they posted online.
A screenshot posted on the Facebook page of Christoph Hoerstel from Potsdam shows that 89 percent answered with a resounding “yes,” with the remaining 11 percent responding with a “no.” Respondents could choose only those two options.
The subsequent deletion of the controversial survey raised an important question of news coverage in the German mainstream media, which has been remarkably vocal in its disapproval of Russia’s stance on Ukraine.
In February, the Ukrainian parliament backed by far-right movements ousted President Viktor Yanukovych and scheduled an early presidential election for May 25.
Moscow has described the uprising in Kiev as an illegitimate fascist coup and a military seizure of power, which resulted in it taking steps to protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine, including the reunification with Crimea.






www.gagrule.net...


meantime, in Italy
Protesters say "No to the Nazi coup d'etat in Ukraine!"



www.youtube.com...
edit on 18-5-2014 by cosmonova because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

A phone opinion poll conducted by the German TV channel N-TV has yielded a surprise finding that 89 percent of its viewers sympathize with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s German pollpolicy on Ukraine, RIA Novosti reported.
A poll on Russia’s handling of the Ukraine crisis by the Berlin-based N-TV went spectacularly wrong in the channel’s opinion, when the majority of its audience said “yes” to the question “Do you have understanding for Putin’s policy?”
The response was indeed so baffling that the poll was wiped off the N-TV home page the same day, but not before some people managed to make screenshots of it, which they posted online.
A screenshot posted on the Facebook page of Christoph Hoerstel from Potsdam shows that 89 percent answered with a resounding “yes,” with the remaining 11 percent responding with a “no.” Respondents could choose only those two options.
The subsequent deletion of the controversial survey raised an important question of news coverage in the German mainstream media, which has been remarkably vocal in its disapproval of Russia’s stance on Ukraine.
In February, the Ukrainian parliament backed by far-right movements ousted President Viktor Yanukovych and scheduled an early presidential election for May 25.
Moscow has described the uprising in Kiev as an illegitimate fascist coup and a military seizure of power, which resulted in it taking steps to protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine, including the reunification with Crimea.






www.gagrule.net...


meantime, in Italy
Protesters say "No to the Nazi coup d'etat in Ukraine!"



www.youtube.com...


i think they pulled it because its an open ended question. I have an understanding of Putins policy as well doesnt mean i agree with it. So asking do you understand Putins policies was a dumb question to ask in a poll. Many people familiar with the situation will answer yes to that.



posted on May, 18 2014 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

A phone opinion poll conducted by the German TV channel N-TV has yielded a surprise finding that 89 percent of its viewers sympathize with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s German pollpolicy on Ukraine, RIA Novosti reported.
A poll on Russia’s handling of the Ukraine crisis by the Berlin-based N-TV went spectacularly wrong in the channel’s opinion, when the majority of its audience said “yes” to the question “Do you have understanding for Putin’s policy?”
The response was indeed so baffling that the poll was wiped off the N-TV home page the same day, but not before some people managed to make screenshots of it, which they posted online.
A screenshot posted on the Facebook page of Christoph Hoerstel from Potsdam shows that 89 percent answered with a resounding “yes,” with the remaining 11 percent responding with a “no.” Respondents could choose only those two options.
The subsequent deletion of the controversial survey raised an important question of news coverage in the German mainstream media, which has been remarkably vocal in its disapproval of Russia’s stance on Ukraine.
In February, the Ukrainian parliament backed by far-right movements ousted President Viktor Yanukovych and scheduled an early presidential election for May 25.
Moscow has described the uprising in Kiev as an illegitimate fascist coup and a military seizure of power, which resulted in it taking steps to protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine, including the reunification with Crimea.






www.gagrule.net...


meantime, in Italy
Protesters say "No to the Nazi coup d'etat in Ukraine!"



www.youtube.com...


i think they pulled it because its an open ended question. I have an understanding of Putins policy as well doesnt mean i agree with it. So asking do you understand Putins policies was a dumb question to ask in a poll. Many people familiar with the situation will answer yes to that.



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