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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on May, 13 2014 @ 07:03 PM
By The Associated Press
— May. 13, 2014 4:08 PM EDT

A potential peace deal for Ukraine has emerged after months of political chaos, deadly violence, economic volatility and the worst crisis between Russia and the West in a generation. Here's a look at the plan, crafted by the Organization for Security and Cooperation and Europe, a security and rights monitoring group made up of European countries including Russia.



The plan calls for all sides to refrain from violence, intimidation and provocations, with OSCE teams helping to investigate and prosecute violations. Protesters occupying buildings would leave and surrender their weapons, and receive amnesty in return. No more referendums would be allowed, after a hastily arranged vote in Crimea led to the region joining Russia, and after insurgents in two other eastern provinces organized ballots last weekend.

Central to the plan is a series of round-table talks and town hall meetings involving Ukrainian authorities and those who "feel alienated from government" — such as the insurgents in eastern Ukraine. The talks would aim to decentralize Ukraine's government and maintain the status of the Russian language, which is commonly spoken in Ukraine, especially in the areas where opposition to the Kiev government runs highest.

Nationwide presidential elections on May 25 would go ahead as planned, possibly with added questions related to the issues under discussion.
edit on 5/13/14 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 07:09 PM
a reply to: VirusGuard

I d like to see the russians try to stop the US from using the ones we already have without starting a war. When they can do that then it will be a news story. Its not like we cant just dust off our old rocket plans and use them like we used to.

Also as far as china goes remember both of the economies are scrwed if they stop because of the hyper inflated values of chinese money.Od course they will all dismiss it as pro western.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 07:31 PM
a reply to: dragonridr

I seriously doubt the pro Russians in the South and East are going to go for that. They have already demonstrated their intentions by refusing to hold the vote on the same day as Presidential elections. I also doubt Russia will accept any plans that do not allow the possibility of annexing the South or East.

They are already increasing their rhetoric towards Moldova.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 07:32 PM
a reply to: yuppa

X-37B comes to mind.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 09:06 PM
Apparently Russian observers said the Donetsk vote was falsified.

Referendum in Donetsk and Lugansk Tragedy in Odessa Presidential election Saboteurs in Eastern Ukraine Occupation of Crimea Russia's aggression against Ukraine Anti-Corruption Bureau

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 09:23 PM
Apparently donetsk peoples republic is throwing people out of there homes. When asked he explained its needed for miltary defense. So is stealing money from local shops and not to mention cars apparently. Our self appointed mayor has people running around his city terrorizing the people and taking whatever they want. Sounds like the middle ages where the troops are allowed to sack a village after they take it doesnt it? Funny thing is hes going to cause the locals to hang him from a tree before this is all over with. You cant take peoples homes and property and expect them to be ok with it.But more importantly there hiding among the population in case of an assault so they can cause civilian casualties. They fire at troops from an apartment they will respond and they get video of Ukrainian troops shooting at civilians.

Sloviansk terrorists justify the seizure of property by militants "on the military." VIDEO
Strangers of the "people's militia" willfully chose to settle temporarily in an empty house locals - "military needs"

This was reported Tsenzor.NET citing television channel Slavic " C-plus ".

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 09:34 PM
Does this seem like Russia is making it easy for Ukraine to make the crises for Europe take on more urgency. All Ukraine has to do is refuse to pay and they stop shipment of Russian gas to Europe isnt this sort of like giving the Ukrainians ammunition in a fight?

Gazprom introduces pre-payment system for Ukraine, sends $1.66bn bill
Published time: May 13, 2014 12:39
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Gazprom has sent Ukraine’s Naftogaz a $1.66 billion bill for June, which Kiev must pay by June 2, or risk a halt in natural gas supplies on June 3.

Russia’s largest state-owned natural gas producer sent the bill on Tuesday, Gazprom spokesman Sergey Kupriyanov said, as reported by ITAR-TASS. Kupriyanov said the switch to prepayment was in line with a 2009 contract.

President Dmitry Medvedev will hold a press conference on June 3.

Naftogaz, Ukraine’s state oil and gas company "must pay this bill by June 2, and starting June 3, the company will only receive gas supplies that have been paid for,” Kupriyanov said.

A supply rupture will not only hurt Ukraine, but also the rest of Europe, which receives up to 50 percent of its gas via Ukraine. Much of Europe is dependent on Russian gas, which supplies about 30 percent of energy needs. Bulgaria and the Czech Republic both import 100 percent of their natural gas from Russia, which passes through Ukraine.

The bill is based on an estimate of an average daily supply of 114 million cubic meters, as Itar-Tass quotes Kypriyanov.

On Tuesday, Gazprom CEO Aleksey Miller said that if Kiev doesn’t pay its gas bill by June 2, Moscow will turn off the pipes to Ukraine. According to Miller, Kiev already owes the company more than $3.5 billion, and the country can no longer “nanny” the unreliable partner.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 09:41 PM

Donetsk, Ukraine (CNN) -- Six members of the Ukrainian armed forces were killed on Tuesday in a "terrorist attack," the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said in a statement on its website.
The incident took place in the village of Oktyabrski in the Slovyansk region, about 20 kilometers from Kramatorsk, during "a unit movement from the military base." The location is in volatile eastern Ukraine.
"Our soldiers were attacked in an ambush. Terrorists attacked our land troops with grenades. The attackers were more than 30 people and set an ambush near the river," the ministry said.
"After a long shootout, six soldiers of The Ukrainian Armed Services were killed," the statement said.

In another incident in eastern Ukraine, a separatist leader has been injured in a suspected assassination attempt, a spokesman said Tuesday, amid continuing turmoil in the wake of a controversial weekend referendum on independence.
A car carrying the "Luhansk people's governor" Valeriy Bolotov was fired on Tuesday in the Luhansk region, said Vasiliy Nikitin, a spokesman for the self-declared "Luhansk People's Republic."
Bolotov suffered a gunshot injury, but Nikitin said it was "light" and not life threatening. It is not known who was behind the shooting.

Yatsenyuk said the priority for Ukraine was to hold free and fair national elections on May 25, after which, he said, "we expect to have a new, legitimate president."
The Prime Minister warned that Ukraine would pursue Russia through the courts over its annexation in March of Ukraine's Crimea territory, including an oil and natural gas company based there.
Ukraine will also challenge Russian energy giant Gazprom in court unless it agrees to renegotiate the price it charges Ukraine for natural gas supplies, Yatsenyuk said. Gazprom said the recent sharp increase, from $268.50 to $485 per 1,000 cubic meters, was necessary because Ukraine is billions of dollars in arrears.
Yatsenyuk said Ukraine would pay what it owes, but only if Gazprom revises the natural gas deal in line with market rates.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 10:10 PM
Kiev is not playing by the rules apparently. They had aircraft repainted for UN missions and now using them in slovyansk without repainting them. Making it look like there anti terrorist operation is a UN mission.

United Nations, May 14. / Correspondent. ITAR-TASS Oleg Zelenin /. United Nations examines recent media reports that helicopters with its identification marks have been involved in the Ukrainian military power operation under Kramatorsk.

Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: in collisions under Kramatorsk killed six soldiers
If confirmed, it would mean that the Kyiv authorities violated international organization concluded with agreement correspondent reported on Tuesday. ITAR-TASS, the press service of the Department of Peacekeeping Operations of the United Nations. "UN agencies are in contact with the Ukrainian authorities on this issue", - added the spokesman.

Earlier media reports on the use in the course of the operation under Kramatorsk at least three helicopters, painted white with applied with symbolism and identification marks of the UN.
Based on available information, it is about three combat Mi-24 and one Mi-8 transport. Video from one of the Mi-24 was posted on video hosting YouTube.
Ukrainian helicopters were involved in several UN peacekeeping missions, particularly in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 10:17 PM
Heres an interesting poll done in Ukraine also makes you wonder about the vote.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 10:18 PM

Does this seem like Russia is making it easy for Ukraine to make the crises for Europe take on more urgency. All Ukraine has to do is refuse to pay and they stop shipment of Russian gas to Europe isnt this sort of like giving the Ukrainians ammunition in a fight?
a reply to: dragonridr

Russia cuts Ukranian gas off.

Kiev cuts Europe bound gas off.

Russia launches full scale invasion to annex whole of Ukraine.

Before Russians even reach Kiev, the common people in Western Ukraine capture and hang the Junta.

Russia annexes whole of Ukraine eventually.

Right sector, Svoboda, other bootlickers of DC/London/Brussels are fed to the pigs kept hungry for several days.

Then free and fair elections take place for the governors of East and West Ukraine provinces in the Russian Federation.

edit on 13-5-2014 by victor7 because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 10:31 PM
Really bad news for Putin.

Saudi Arabia Promises to Offset Oil Shortages Caused by Ukraine Crisis

Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi said Monday the world's top oil exporter was willing to supply markets with more crude oil if rising tensions between Russia and the West over Ukraine cause a shortage.

Russia's military intervention on Ukraine's Crimean peninsula and its aftermath in eastern Ukraine have rattled oil markets for the last few months, keeping benchmark Brent futures near $108 a barrel after hitting $112.39 on March 3, the highest this year.

"We are willing to supply any shortage which may arise," Naimi said. He said the kingdom's current output is around 9.6 million barrels per day, or bpd, while it has a capacity of 12.5 million bpd.

Saudi Arabia produced 9.66 million bpd of crude in April, up from 9.566 million bpd in March, an industry source familiar with the matter said. It supplied 9.650 million bpd to the market, up from 9.533 million bpd in March.

Naimi later added that both Saudi Arabia and the producer group OPEC would meet any additional demand for oil.

"Wherever demand is needed, we and other OPEC members will supply," he said.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 10:42 PM

At night "peaceful" Sloviansk separatists have fired on a television tower and Ukrainian law enforcement officials, who protected the tower, by 14 mortar shoots, as always from behind the residential buildings. Our soldiers answered. No one was injured. This was reported by the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov.
– The information war against us in the Donbas in more dangerous than bullets. We must answer both exactly and truly. The enemy is more frightened than the special forces officials, – admitted the head of department.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 10:49 PM
NATO has been busy taking advantage of the opening Russia has given it. A defense pact with Finland, a new pact with Japan, increased cooperation with Azerbaij and Georgia and a new coorperation agreement with the African Union. These all present long term strategic problems for Russia.

Finland NATO

Japan NATO

Azerbaijan NATO

Georgia NATO

Afican Union NATO

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 10:56 PM

originally posted by: MrSpad
NATO has been busy taking advantage of the opening Russia has given it. A defense pact with Finland, a new pact with Japan, increased cooperation with Azerbaij and Georgia and a new coorperation agreement with the African Union. These all present long term strategic problems for Russia.

Finland NATO

Japan NATO

Azerbaijan NATO

Georgia NATO

Afican Union NATO

Missed the African part thanks see Putins temper tantrum is making the long term look great for NATO made Russia look like a rogue nation to the international community. I really still cant believe he didnt think of the long term before commiting troops into Ukraine he took a short term victory but didnt play the long game at all.

Russian missile ship barred from Israeli port over Ukraine crisis
Official said Israel strives to maintain neutrality in the big powers’ confrontation over Ukraine.

Israel denied a request by Moscow to let a Russian missile boat anchor at Haifa a month ago, making the decision against the backdrop of the crisis in Ukraine, said a senior official in Jerusalem involved in the matter.

Israeli officials were worried that allowing a Russian naval vessel to visit Haifa would worsen tensions with the United States. There were also concerns about possible espionage.

The request was handled by the national security adviser, Yossi Cohen. He asked for the opinion of Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, the Israel Defense Forces and the Shin Bet security service, but not the Foreign Ministry. All opinions were negative and the request was denied.

The official said Israel strives to maintain neutrality in the big powers’ confrontation over Ukraine; pictures of a Russian warship at Israel’s main naval base would convey that Israel was siding with Moscow.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 11:02 PM

originally posted by: sosobad
Hunter Biden to Ukraine gas board

Hunter Biden, the younger son of Vice President Joe Biden, will be joining Ukraine’s largest private gas producer, the company announced in a statement Read more:

The Moscow Times: Son of US Vice President Biden joins Ukraine gas company
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wel well what do we have in here,
a son of US Vice President on the board of Ukraine's largest private gas producer.
What is next, a daughter of Victoria Nuland on the board of Ukraine's largest cookies manufacturer.

Biden Jr.’s resume is unsurprisingly sprinkled with Ivy-league dust – a graduate of Yale Law School he serves on the Chairman’s Advisory Board for the National Democratic Institute, is a director for the Center for National Policy and the US Global Leadership Coalition which comprises 400 American businesses, NGOs, senior national security and foreign policy experts.

Biden Junior is a director of 'US Global Leadership Coalition'.

What a lovely name of this coalition. God forbid.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 11:04 PM

Russia is going to suspend the operation of all American GPS sites on its territory, starting from June 1, said Russia’s deputy PM, Dmitry Rogozin, who is in charge of space and defense industries.

"Starting June 1, we will halt the work of those stations on Russian territory,” Rogozin said.

The US relies on Russian-made RD-180 and NK-33 engines to launch military and civilian satellites into space, with NASA saying it’s unlikely to produce a fully operational rocket engine of its own before 2020.

According to Rogozin, Moscow also isn’t planning to agree to the US offer of prolonging operation of the International Space Station (ISS).

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 11:11 PM
a reply to: MrSpad

Finland NATO, Japan NATO, Azerbaijan NATO, Georgia NATO................all these are worth only 1-2 nukes. Then they will go quiet.

Afican Union NATO.................that will not hold any value as NATO is a deviously racist organization and will back off at the time of need.

I doubt if NATO will come to help of Central European poodles if need arises.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 11:18 PM
Guerrilla warfare in a full swing, this is going to increase as it works well for resistance forces.
Surprise attacks of small groups of people.
They are not siting on barricades and waiting any more, they are using surprise factors.

„The Kramatorsk squadron consisting mostly of Kazaks has just given the report about fulfilling of the task given. From ambush there were destroyed two APCs, 1 Kamaz with ammunition supplies, there were killed and wounded about 30 enemy soldiers. Only 1 vehicle Gas-66 with missile launcher managed to get away. Our losses: a 200th and 300th. The perished one is a volunteer from Dnepropetrovsk”.

Glory to thewarriors-liberators.

aftermath of yesterday's ambush in Kramatorsk. Ukrainian helicopters coming to evacuate injured and dead troops.
according to reports, 7 dead and 20 injured.

posted on May, 13 2014 @ 11:25 PM
a reply to: cosmonova

I agree theyll move to guerrilla tactics but it also hurts there narrative there trying to convince the world there a majority. Using guerrilla tactics shows they are indeed a minority group and easier to brand them terrorists. So it just adds to the theory thats its Russian spc ops making Russias actions all the more suspect. Russia is going to lose the information war if this continues because there story will become less tenable.

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