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I have not said anything like that at all. But if it suits you, carry on making stuff up.
originally posted by: lightedhype
a reply to: ProfessorT
So let me get this straight, you sit here behind your keyboard on this forum doing everything you can to justify the slaughter of civillians by armed militaries and basically blaming those being killed for being killed.
Yet, you do not even have the BALLS to watch a damned video proving the very things you are denying and unwittingly supporting? Give me a freakin break man.
You wont even watch the video and yet youll still say they deserved to be killed. Un freakin believable!
Question for you Pro-Kiev people - Why are you okay with how the Maidan protesters were armed - ahooting police officers on video - and yes even pictures - and that was fine and dandy yet these people are armed so they deserve to be slaughter?
That is pretty sick. Gotta love what bias can do to your judgement eh?
You have dehumanized the people of Eastern Ukraine and thus this is all okay to you....sigh...
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: victor7
Well i saw a group chasing the soldiers down the street. Because i saw soldiers run by no one on the street. Than when they ran buy people stood on the street oddest thing why didnt those people leave the area? Anyway than i saw a group of people with molotovs and handguns chasing them down the street. Biggest problem is there military hasnt been trained at all on how to handle it. There response run down the street opening up the area of engagement.This does nothing but guarantee civilian casualties there instincts were wrong. Instead of running you close the distance to your attackers just shows a complete lack of training when you see them run from handguns and molotovs. Ukraine cannot use these troops in there cities casualties will be high.
originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: dragonridr
First: about the men with molotovs. At one point in the video they (2 of them) tried to give molotovs to people, saying: "Take the cocktail". Everyone attacked him that he is a paid provocator and that he should get the f... out of there. Not one person took the cocktail.
I didn't see a shooter at first. And he is with protesters, you are right. But you can also see that he is shooting after the 'soldiers' shot two unarmed people (you can say self-defense) who were in the front line with their hands in the air, and one of them who got shot in the head (I think the bullet just glanced him) was on his knees. What kind of danger they posed to the soldiers?
You are right, that these soldiers don't have training. Most of them just signed up for the military about a month ago after the new government started it's campaign. Almost all of them come from Western Ukraine and came there just because of the money. Few thousand (real) soldiers said, that they're with protesters. Most of the rest said, that they will not fight against Ukrainian residents. Because of that Ukraine took everyone in and gave them guns and small monthly paycheck.
So, whose fault is it that people got shot?
P.S.: about man that got shot on 1:47 - there are soldiers on the side of the building there too. They're seen in the video that was shot on the other side of the street. I can't find the video but I will post it for you as soon as I do.
P.S.2: I advice you remove the video because my last post was completely removed because of it. It's too graphic.(I see I was too late with my advice)edit on 10-5-2014 by baburak because: (no reason given)
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