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originally posted by: Xcathdra
RT journalist - Paula Slier
I keep seeing her name popping up with reports on the more graphic incidents. I will concede she may be a good journalist, however personally speaking I find it odd that a single journalist can have such good luck that no matter where she goes, she always seems to be in the right place at the right time.
Not an accusation, just an observation.
originally posted by: cosmonova
I believe a moment of 'enough is enough' for EU is around the corner.
BERLIN— Angela Merkel is carrying a clear message from Germany's business lobby to the White House: No more sanctions
Several of the biggest names in German business—including chemical giant BASF BAS.XE -3.25% SE, engineering group Siemens AG SIE.XE +0.17% , Volkswagen AG VOW3.XE 0.00% , Adidas AG ADS.XE -0.39% adidas AG Germany: Xetra €76.84 -0.30 -0.39% May 5, 2014 5:35 pm Volume : 720,174 P/E Ratio 20.44 Market Cap €16.14 Billion Dividend Yield 1.95% Rev. per Employee €285,681 77.5077.0076.5076.00
10a11a12p1p2p3p4p5p
05/05/14 Adidas Puts Rockport Shoe Bran... 05/01/14 German Businesses Urge Halt on... 04/29/14 Adidas Reinstates Marketing Pa... More quote details and news » and Deutsche Bank AG DBK.XE -1.06% —have made their opposition to broader economic sanctions against Russia clear in recent weeks, both in public and in private.
A breakdown in Germany's trade relations with Russia could cost as many as 300,000 German jobs, according to the German government.
online.wsj.com...
"We have a range of tools at our disposal, including sanctions that would target certain sectors of the Russian economy," Mr. Obama said from the White House Rose Garden with Merkel at his side. "If we see the disruptions and destabilization continuing so severely that it impedes elections on May 25, we will not have a choice but to move forward with additional sanctions."
Showing that the U.S. and Europe are unified on the matter -- in spite of concerns that further sanctions could hurt the European economy -- Merkel said, "I am firmly convinced... the United States and European Union need to act in concert here."
The crisis in Ukraine, and Germany’s reluctance to impose deeper sanctions on Russia, will dominate a meeting Friday when President Obama hosts German Chancellor Angela Merkel at the White House.
Mr. Obama is expected to lobby Mrs. Merkel to put more economic pressure on Moscow for its continued violation of a deal reached in Geneva on April 17 to de-escalate the crisis in Ukraine, where pro-Russia militants have seized government buildings in about a dozen cities.
“There’s no question that the situation in Ukraine, the continued failure by Russia to abide by its commitments in the Geneva agreement will be a focus of the conversation,” said White House Press Secretary Jay Carney.
Mrs. Merkel is the first European leader to visit Washington since the Ukrainian crisis began in March with Russia’s annexation of the Crimean peninsula. She is also on better terms with Russian President Vladimir Putin than Mr. Obama is, having spoken to the Russian leader by phone at least a dozen times since the crisis began.
In addition to four hours of meetings scheduled with Mr. Obama, Mrs. Merkel will hold a joint press conference Friday with the president.
Before her arrival in Washington, Mrs. Merkel said she was working through various channels to negotiate with Russia, but added that “there is a readiness to impose economic sanctions at the same time.”
“Should all this fail to bring results, we also should not fear the necessity of further sanctions,” she said.
Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder celebrated his 70th birthday this week in St. Petersburg at a bash with Mr. Putin, a close friend whom Mr. Schroeder has called “a flawless democrat.” The birthday party was hosted by Nord Stream, which is 51 percent owned by OAO Gazprom, the Russian state gas monopoly and the nation’s biggest company.
Mr. Schroeder is a member of the German Social Democratic Party, now governing in coalition with Mrs. Merkel’s party.
“There are big tensions in the SPD on Russia-Ukraine,” said Joerg Forbrig, a senior program officer of the German Marshall Fund of the U.S. in Berlin.
German Social Democratic Party Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier “wants a balanced approach, but many party rank and file want the old line of understanding, engagement and no difficulties with Russia,” he said.
originally posted by: Catacomb
a reply to: Xcathdra
The Germans are not going to do anything...it's pretty sad. They are going to cower, and whimper, just like they have done for quite a long period of time now. Money is talking....
Pelosi says she ‘couldn’t care less’ about Benghazi criticism
originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica
a reply to: dragonridr
If I may put my .2 cents in.
I've been seeing that US and friends wanted to use more of a 'targeted pressure' on companies such as: Microsoft & Oracle which make up the operating backbone for Russian banks.
Thats what I expect from this. . . what, 4th round of sanctions?
originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica
Sanctions against Russia can be sum'd up as this:
. . . European citizens are brave to allow their govt's to act reckless with their own economy.
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
I believe a moment of 'enough is enough' for EU is around the corner.
BERLIN— Angela Merkel is carrying a clear message from Germany's business lobby to the White House: No more sanctions
Several of the biggest names in German business—including chemical giant BASF BAS.XE -3.25% SE, engineering group Siemens AG SIE.XE +0.17% , Volkswagen AG VOW3.XE 0.00% , Adidas AG ADS.XE -0.39% adidas AG Germany: Xetra €76.84 -0.30 -0.39% May 5, 2014 5:35 pm Volume : 720,174 P/E Ratio 20.44 Market Cap €16.14 Billion Dividend Yield 1.95% Rev. per Employee €285,681 77.5077.0076.5076.00
10a11a12p1p2p3p4p5p
05/05/14 Adidas Puts Rockport Shoe Bran... 05/01/14 German Businesses Urge Halt on... 04/29/14 Adidas Reinstates Marketing Pa... More quote details and news » and Deutsche Bank AG DBK.XE -1.06% —have made their opposition to broader economic sanctions against Russia clear in recent weeks, both in public and in private.
A breakdown in Germany's trade relations with Russia could cost as many as 300,000 German jobs, according to the German government.
online.wsj.com...
Odd she said something very different when she met the president at the white house. So id say your source is wrong since we can hear what she says on it directly. Heres a quote from her speech-
"We have a range of tools at our disposal, including sanctions that would target certain sectors of the Russian economy," Mr. Obama said from the White House Rose Garden with Merkel at his side. "If we see the disruptions and destabilization continuing so severely that it impedes elections on May 25, we will not have a choice but to move forward with additional sanctions."
Showing that the U.S. and Europe are unified on the matter -- in spite of concerns that further sanctions could hurt the European economy -- Merkel said, "I am firmly convinced... the United States and European Union need to act in concert here."
originally posted by: cosmonova
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
I believe a moment of 'enough is enough' for EU is around the corner.
BERLIN— Angela Merkel is carrying a clear message from Germany's business lobby to the White House: No more sanctions
Several of the biggest names in German business—including chemical giant BASF BAS.XE -3.25% SE, engineering group Siemens AG SIE.XE +0.17% , Volkswagen AG VOW3.XE 0.00% , Adidas AG ADS.XE -0.39% adidas AG Germany: Xetra €76.84 -0.30 -0.39% May 5, 2014 5:35 pm Volume : 720,174 P/E Ratio 20.44 Market Cap €16.14 Billion Dividend Yield 1.95% Rev. per Employee €285,681 77.5077.0076.5076.00
10a11a12p1p2p3p4p5p
05/05/14 Adidas Puts Rockport Shoe Bran... 05/01/14 German Businesses Urge Halt on... 04/29/14 Adidas Reinstates Marketing Pa... More quote details and news » and Deutsche Bank AG DBK.XE -1.06% —have made their opposition to broader economic sanctions against Russia clear in recent weeks, both in public and in private.
A breakdown in Germany's trade relations with Russia could cost as many as 300,000 German jobs, according to the German government.
online.wsj.com...
Odd she said something very different when she met the president at the white house. So id say your source is wrong since we can hear what she says on it directly. Heres a quote from her speech-
"We have a range of tools at our disposal, including sanctions that would target certain sectors of the Russian economy," Mr. Obama said from the White House Rose Garden with Merkel at his side. "If we see the disruptions and destabilization continuing so severely that it impedes elections on May 25, we will not have a choice but to move forward with additional sanctions."
Showing that the U.S. and Europe are unified on the matter -- in spite of concerns that further sanctions could hurt the European economy -- Merkel said, "I am firmly convinced... the United States and European Union need to act in concert here."
the real sanctions are far away and I doubt it will be implemented at all by Germany. They would risk to much.
This is all nonsense so far and barking without biting. What is hurting Russia a bit more is transition of Crimea into Federation I believe. That is making a big impact on economy. But that was unavoidable and taken in consideration
prior Russia approved Crimea to join. Germany went through the same thing when Eastern part joined after Berlin Wall.
What I am looking forward to is Putin's visit to China in a couple weeks time and what is going to happen there.
Quite curious to find out where is Russia-China relation going after that visit.
This can be a major game-breaker for Russia's geo-strategic positions.
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica
a reply to: dragonridr
If I may put my .2 cents in.
I've been seeing that US and friends wanted to use more of a 'targeted pressure' on companies such as: Microsoft & Oracle which make up the operating backbone for Russian banks.
Thats what I expect from this. . . what, 4th round of sanctions?
I read a report on this apparently not only the banking industry but many areas of there economy are dependent on US tech. Including there gas industry.Same article was discussing the damage to Russian space program NASA is already taking steps to remove Russia from the equation. In fact Space X just docked with the ISS want to bet when this Russian crew goes home there wont be any more Russians on the ISS.
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
I believe a moment of 'enough is enough' for EU is around the corner.
BERLIN— Angela Merkel is carrying a clear message from Germany's business lobby to the White House: No more sanctions
Several of the biggest names in German business—including chemical giant BASF BAS.XE -3.25% SE, engineering group Siemens AG SIE.XE +0.17% , Volkswagen AG VOW3.XE 0.00% , Adidas AG ADS.XE -0.39% adidas AG Germany: Xetra €76.84 -0.30 -0.39% May 5, 2014 5:35 pm Volume : 720,174 P/E Ratio 20.44 Market Cap €16.14 Billion Dividend Yield 1.95% Rev. per Employee €285,681 77.5077.0076.5076.00
10a11a12p1p2p3p4p5p
05/05/14 Adidas Puts Rockport Shoe Bran... 05/01/14 German Businesses Urge Halt on... 04/29/14 Adidas Reinstates Marketing Pa... More quote details and news » and Deutsche Bank AG DBK.XE -1.06% —have made their opposition to broader economic sanctions against Russia clear in recent weeks, both in public and in private.
A breakdown in Germany's trade relations with Russia could cost as many as 300,000 German jobs, according to the German government.
online.wsj.com...
Odd she said something very different when she met the president at the white house. So id say your source is wrong since we can hear what she says on it directly. Heres a quote from her speech-
"We have a range of tools at our disposal, including sanctions that would target certain sectors of the Russian economy," Mr. Obama said from the White House Rose Garden with Merkel at his side. "If we see the disruptions and destabilization continuing so severely that it impedes elections on May 25, we will not have a choice but to move forward with additional sanctions."
Showing that the U.S. and Europe are unified on the matter -- in spite of concerns that further sanctions could hurt the European economy -- Merkel said, "I am firmly convinced... the United States and European Union need to act in concert here."
the real sanctions are far away and I doubt it will be implemented at all by Germany. They would risk to much.
This is all nonsense so far and barking without biting. What is hurting Russia a bit more is transition of Crimea into Federation I believe. That is making a big impact on economy. But that was unavoidable and taken in consideration
prior Russia approved Crimea to join. Germany went through the same thing when Eastern part joined after Berlin Wall.
What I am looking forward to is Putin's visit to China in a couple weeks time and what is going to happen there.
Quite curious to find out where is Russia-China relation going after that visit.
This can be a major game-breaker for Russia's geo-strategic positions.
I agree i dont think they fully took Crimea into account however and there appears to be some disagreement in Moscow with that report they came out with saying that less than 33 percent of Crimeans voted to join Russia is almost like there leaving the door open for another election. Possibly allowing Crimean to re vote to become independent nation getting Russia off the hook. Crimea is a huge money pit Ukraine spent billions over what it received in taxes over half the population is on pensions and another 15 percent receive government aid such college etc. If thats not bad enough there economy was highly dependent on Ukraine for basics food water etc all of which is going to become more expensive. This means Russia will have to continue to raise pensions just to keep up with inflation. International banks are refusing to enter Crimea because the UN including Russian banks fearfull they will be locked out of international markets. And is all of that isnt bad enough you have Turkey starting to get upset at the way the tatars are being treated how long before they start arming them.
I think this was a case of afterwards the Kremlin going what did we just do?????
Ukraine Reporter @StateOfUkraine
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UNCONFIRMED Reports that Russian military crossing the border without insignia at the captured border crossing in #Luhansk #Ukraine
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