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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 04:09 AM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica
a reply to: dragonridr

Ok I see. That was a while ago.

Interesting. Thanks




Other thing you dont beat them than parade them in front of the press that was stupid you can still see the dried blood around there face. Bad move but i noticed they keep doing incredibly stupid things. This means members of Alpha will be inspired to inflict pain when they get a chance and something tells me they will. If you beat them you definitely dont parade them out in public you say there being treated well. Unfortunately in that part of the world interrogations are especially brutal.




quite contrary to what you said. Nothing stupid about it.
These guys have infiltrated Pro-Russian area aiming to gather some intelligence about militia in the area and allegedly to abduct militia boss. This presentation is suppose to be a warning to all others who are in the area, I believe there is 4 more as a part of the team, or planning to sneak in. 'You will be caught, do not even think about it' sort of message. Psy Ops.


Yeah you dont parade around people you tortured makes it easier for the war crime charges that will come later. These people are doing nothing but ending up with very long jail sentences when its over. There only hope is for Russia to invade they better pray for it.Because if they dont they ruined the rest of there lives capturing UN personnel. Violating geneva convention while at the same time trying to use it claiming they are POWs. There new mayor is likely to wind up on Interpol lists by the end of the week.I know you think violence is ok but in the civilized world you try not to mistreat your prisoners and when you do those people go to jail for breaking the rules.


I find it amusing how you like to exaggerate things. You quite enjoy doing it, don't you?
Please let us know what UN personnel has been captured so far?


The OSCE observers were taken hostage and offered as a prisoner exchange. The OSCE is there under mandate by the UN. Therefore they are UN personnel and are used as a reporting body of the UN. Get this there sent to the US even to monitor our elections. There also the ones that write those human rights violations by the US you love so much.



Outright lie.
OSCE is not there under mandate of UN. Completely different bodies.
The funny thing about military 'OSCE observers' is that all of them are from NATO countries.
So their involvement is questionable and it is being investigated. Do not worry they will be released.
It is just a play game.


Is this what RT tells you or do you not understand the word mandate? When UN requests you to be there that is called a mandate. When you report to the UN with your report again that is a mandate. When the un uses said report for example talking about conditions in Crimea like they recently did they take the information from the OSCE and used it. This is all very clear to the rest of the world not so clear to the pro moscow idiots who decided to hold them hostage however. I can all but guarantee the report to the UN isnt going to be nice to them after holding the people that will write the report hostage. Oh and so you know how little you seem to know about the real world Russia is a member so yeah there mostly NATO countries. I suggest you have the internet try to use it your current news sources dont seem to be working for you.



Another outright lie. Actually lie might be a bit to harsh, lets say you are not well informed.
UN did not make any request for OSCE to be there, this is purely EU action.
OSCE has a special monitoring mission in Ukraine and their mandate is:
'The monitors are mandated to contribute to reducing tensions and to help foster peace, stability and security. The Mission engages with authorities at all levels, as well as civil society, ethnic and religious groups and local communities to facilitate dialogue on the ground. The Mission will gather information and report on the security situation, establish and report facts in response to specific incidents, including those concerning alleged violations of fundamental OSCE principles.'

www.osce.org...

There is no UN request for this, this is purely EU action.


You continue to embarrass yourself please stop im feeling sorry for you at this point.

www.unmultimedia.org...


What you posted is related to events at Maidan, February 2014, what is your point?
Once again OSCE is not UN body, completely different organisation, they do not take orders from UN, it is all based on cooperation levels.



Ok english may not be your first language so ill say when the un requests the OSCE to investigate Ukraine like was announced in the press conference from the UN building where the OSCE has offices that is called a mandate. Under a mandate they are working for the UN. Just like when the UN sends peace keepers into an area they dont have troops so they give whats called a mandate. That means you are working for the UN at there request. As i said please stop.



lol you have no idea what you are talking about. There is no request and there is no mandate. That would apply if OSCE is UN body. There can only be cooperation.


OK your right the the OSCE doesnt report to the UN they dont have offices in the UN the chairman hasnt reported to the UN they havnt written reports for the UN that the UN just recently used. The press conference held at the UN announcing there involvement which i posted for you was a figment of western medias imagination. The OSCE has never worked for the UN.Again please stop you really dont know when you dug your self into a hole do you? See to get out of a hole the first rule is stop digging.





A mission will be sent to Ukraine to assess human rights violations in the country and help rebuild trust between the parties.
That's what the current Chair of a European security organization told reporters on Monday after speaking to the UN Security Council.




posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 04:15 AM
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a reply to: asen_y2k

Interesting i wonder if Kiev knows about this or are they acting on there own?



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 04:17 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Could be anyones guess. But I think its not a centrally sanctioned act.



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 04:59 AM
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Live stream of a pro Russian rally in Kharkiv.



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:06 AM
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'Because if they dont they ruined the rest of there lives capturing UN personnel.'

Last chance, what UN personnel? Any pictures of UN personnel?
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posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:14 AM
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I have a feeling some big things will happen today&tonight.



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:16 AM
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originally posted by: cosmonova
I have a feeling some big things will happen today&tonight.


We all have been having this feeling since yesterday. Tensions are at an all time high. Something must budge. The situation at the ground is stagnating. It cant stay like this for ever.

For me,
I think today and tomorrow.
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posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: asen_y2k


Seem RT.com has been very quite today, anyone else noticed? or it is just me?




posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:17 AM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

'Because if they dont they ruined the rest of there lives capturing UN personnel.'

Last chance, what UN personnel? Any pictures of UN personnel?


Nice straw man did Putin teach you that the actual issue was war crimes and parading out people they tortured for Russian media. As for the un envoy i dont think they release there pictures only there names. But i also havnt looked you have the internet take a look or does Putin allow you to do that ? Stop trying to derail lthe thread. If you want to discuss some news we reported great but your continual denial of facts is well just making you look bad. See when someone posts whats called proof to explain why your wrong at that point you should really move on.



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:22 AM
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Russian soldiers saying they are ready for war with Ukraine. The video was allegedly filmed today.

@SkyNewsBreak: William Hague: diplomatic channels will be kept open to resolve Ukraine crisis but if necessary existing sanctions on Russia can be extended

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posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:32 AM
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pro-Maidan event in Odessa live stream

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:37 AM
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posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:40 AM
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pro-Russian event in Donetsk, live stream

www.ustream.tv...



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:41 AM
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posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:43 AM
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originally posted by: ProfessorT
Russian soldiers saying they are ready for war with Ukraine. The video was allegedly filmed today.

@SkyNewsBreak: William Hague: diplomatic channels will be kept open to resolve Ukraine crisis but if necessary existing sanctions on Russia can be extended


That is Ukrainian Army and it is not new.
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posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:46 AM
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originally posted by: cosmonova
I have a feeling some big things will happen today&tonight.


Do you have Inside knowledge?



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:50 AM
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Can anyone determine if any of this is actually true???




Ministry of Defence of Ukraine
Slovyansk terrorists capture kindergartens and schools

The self-styled Mayor of Slavyansk, Viacheslav Ponomarov gave the separatists orders to take kindergartens. This was announced by journalist Roman Burko on his Facebook page, citing eyewitness accounts. Local residents said that from 13:00 about 5-6 people with guns were inside kindergartens and schools of Slavjansk.

As reported to LigaBusinessInform, a journalist said: "the Mayor" gave the command to his men to use Putin's tactics to hide behind women and children. Parents who came to take their children from the kindergarten earlier than required, faced the fact that they were not able to take their children and were told that they had to fight on the side of "Donetsk Republic."

"In addition, reports confirmed that the self-proclaimed Mayor threatened to shoot people for providing assistance to the Ukrainian military. On the eve of the start of the anti-terrorist operation in Slovyansk leaflets were given out to local residents, urging civilians not to leave their homes, not to succumb to provocation and not to participate in criminal orders from the separatist gang. Ponamarov announced that anyone who will be found in this leaflet, will be shot where they stand”.

In the evening, in Slovyansk, terrorists fired at National Guard helicopters. Today, during the anti-terrorist operation, The units from the Interior and Defense Ministries units destroyed three check points held by illegal armed groups in the northeastern part of the city. During the combat engagement, five terrorists were killed. From the ATO one fighter was wounded.



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:50 AM
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'A fresh round of sanctions on Russia will be an extension of existing measures including travel bans and asset freezes on individuals, British Foreign Secretary William Hague said on Sunday, Reuters reports.'



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:51 AM
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originally posted by: ProfessorT
Russian soldiers saying they are ready for war with Ukraine. The video was allegedly filmed today.


Nothing wrong with being ready to save family across the border from being killed by neo-nazi thugs that have been paid by the USA to start trouble.

Hell I would go so far as saying it is your duty

Americans on the other hand are picking fights all over the place on the other side of the world for no reason and are trying to stop a vote in the Ukraine so lets not over do the democracy bit.

This is a phony war, Putin is in on the deal so come back and slap me if I am wrong but not just because some huffing or puffing from along the border and BS from J-Kerry on CNN news. We all know what war looks like and what a military invasion is.



posted on Apr, 27 2014 @ 05:52 AM
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Reports the right sector guys stormed the parliament in Ternopil region in western Ukraine. Some say they want to separate from Kiev. But does not make any sense.

Vid from the incident.



Correction, the parliament was picketted as they claimed Kiev does not care about them. Many problems in health care etc.
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