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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 02:58 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

OSCE is an independent intergovernmental organization:
en.wikipedia.org...

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) is the world's largest security-oriented intergovernmental organization. Its mandate includes issues such as arms control and the promotion of human rights, freedom of the press and fair elections. It has 550 staff at its headquarters in Vienna, Austria, and 2,300 field staff. It has its origins in the 1975 Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe (CSCE) held in Helsinki, Finland.[1]


But yeah, all their monitoring reports on Eastern Ukraine, so far, have stated the same thing. Popular revolts against current Kiev government are localised to small areas in the East and have a rather limited popular support, as opposed to how things are presented by certain media outlets.




posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:08 AM
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i found this funny like these two senators dont have anything better to do then worry about a game of soccer. Does this count as a sanction????




Two US Senators have written to FIFA President Sepp Blatter in an attempt to get Russia kicked out of the upcoming World Cup 2014 in Brazil and to have the tournament set to take place in 2018 in Russia stripped from them as well.

The Senators, Mark Kirk and Dan Coates of Illinois and Indiana respectively, have pointed to previous sanctions being place upon the likes of Yugoslavia in 1992 as precedent for FIFA to act upon Russia's 'occupation' of parts of Ukraine.

Tensions are at an all time high after Russia annexed part of Ukraine. The US and the EU have both placed sanctions on Russia and its government until the matter can be resolved, but are also demanding that football's world governing body set an example and ban them from the summer's tournament.

www.ftbpro.com...

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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:11 AM
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SBU detained 2 members of Ukrainian military with sensitive information:
www.theinsider.ua...

SBU detained two Ukrainian , who carried out reconnaissance and subversion against Ukraine on orders Russian intelligence.

Both Ukrainian - the military, the press service of the SBU.

One detainee - soldier of Internal Troops of Ukraine , had to transfer its curator of the Russian intelligence information on the deployment and operations of internal forces. SBU detained him on the train " Kyiv -Simferopol " with the stick, which contained secret information .

The second detainee - Lieutenant - State Research Testing Center Air Forces in Feodosia , and he had to get a job in Kyiv Central Research Institute of weapons and military equipment of the Armed Forces . In Kiev, recruited by Russian intelligence had photographed on a mobile military secret documents from the laptop and copied materials for the design of unmanned aircraft.

From these facts began criminal proceedings Part 1 st.111 ( treason ) of the Criminal Code of Ukraine . Sanction article provides punishment of imprisonment up to 15 years.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:12 AM
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Ukrainian anti-terrorist operation to resume today:
gazeta.ua...

Interior Minister Arsen Avakov denied that the anti-terrorist operation ( ATO ) has been suspended due to the threat of invading Russian troops.

This Avakov said on his page on Facebook.

" So, no termination ATO due to the threat of invasion of the armed forces of as many media quick to say - no. This information is incorrect. ATO continues. Terrorists should guard against the clock. Civilians fear nothing " - wrote the minister.

Avakov said that the special operation in the south - east of the country do without involving tanks and heavy equipment and the relatively small forces explosives.

According Avakov , no political parties, unions , social movements are not allowed for the ATO in conjunction with the Ministry of Internal Affairs , Security and the military.

" While today's action, contrary to rumors, were involved in a minor force counterterrorist center , without involving tanks and other heavy equipment. ETC has enough power for rotation and the possibility of day-night action , if necessary ," - said Avakov.

Yesterday , April 24 , the media spread information, citing sources in the security agencies , that the ATO was discontinued due to the high concentration of internal troops of Russia and the possible invasion of the territory of Ukraine .



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:16 AM
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Ukrainian rep. to the UNSC on Russian troop movements:
www.unian.ua...

Sergeyev said that the border with Ukraine there are several groups of troops of the Russian Federation - a joint study group of the Western and Southern military districts.

Reported by BBC Ukraine , referring to his interview with " Voice of America ".

" The south- east side , we noticed a large concentration of artillery, tanks and personnel from the Central and Northern regions, as well as tanks, artillery and install" Grad " - a very dangerous weapon that was used in Chechnya ," - he said.

According to him, Russia is trying to provide a legitimate character " of its possible aggression, as happened, for example , in Abkhazia or in the Crimea, where they are supported by a small group of separatists who seized power and parliament ."

As UNIAN reported earlier , on April 24 after the start of the forces of the Interior Ministry of the active phase of the antiterrorist operation in pro fighters captured Slavic Donetsk region , President Vladimir Putin said that "the actions of the authorities against the people of Ukraine Kyiv will have consequences for them , particularly in terms of international relations of the Russian Federation and Ukraine ". A Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced the commencement exercises in the border regions of Ukraine .



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:20 AM
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Is it fair to call the pro Russian separatists terrorists? Just seems like a term that can be used for anyone who you disagree with. It seems governments are very quick to label any group who goes against the grain a terrorist.
So much so that the term is becoming to lose its meaning. How many have these terrorists killed in the Ukraine? How many of these terrorists have been killed by the Ukrainian government?


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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:22 AM
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originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: Dutzy

Is it fair to call the pro Russian separatists terrorists? Just seems like a term that can be used for anyone who you disagree with. It seems governments are very quick to label any group who goes against the grain a terrorist.
So much so that the term is becoming to lose its meaning. How many have these terrorists killed in the Ukraine? How many have been killed by the Ukrainian government?



As they are the "bad boys" of course they are "terrorists".
BTW you are by definition a "terrorist" (under the governments eyes) simply by browsing this site.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:30 AM
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I keep referring to the operation as an "anti-terrorist" operation, because that is how it is being labeled/presented by the Ukrainian authorities.

There are casualties at the hands of the separatists in Eastern Ukraine, most of them discovered in the last few days, including a Slavyansk city council member, Vladymyr Rybak, journalists detained by the same separatists and so on. So I don't think it is very far-fetched for the operation to be called "anti-terrorist".



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:31 AM
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Gregor Peter @L0gg0l
LOUD EXPLOSION HEARD, SMOKE SEEN RISING NEAR KRAMATORSK AIRPORT IN EASTERN UKRAINE -- WITNESSES (via @demianvonosten)


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pic.twitter.com/I9hYKFXIRl
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LE2: Another picture taken in Kramatorsk, allegedly showing smoke coming from airfield:
pic.twitter.com/UazrfMmhVZ
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:31 AM
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Its no more appropriate than calling the Ukraine government / Pro Ukrainians Nazis.


MaidanOnline ‏@MaidanOnline · 5m
Putin’s sweet dreams and bitter realities: geographical distribution of Euromaidan’s proponents and opponents... fb.me...




EU Crimean Tatar ‏@CrimeaEU · 8m
“@BSpringnote: Meanwhile in Putin's Russia Russian Duma has passed further legislation strictening internet usage guardianlv.com... …”




EU Crimean Tatar ‏@CrimeaEU · 11m
Water War With Ukraine to Devastate Crimean Harvest | Business | The Moscow Times www.themoscowtimes.com... … via @MoscowTimes




RT ‏@RT_com · 13m
#LAVROV: Kerry's comment about RT unacceptable and ill-mannered on.rt.com...



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:34 AM
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EU Crimean Tatar ‏@CrimeaEU · 7s
Explosion injures several at pro-Ukraine checkpoint near Odessa www.theguardian.com...



Russia will not threaten anyone for own interests
The Russian government has absolutely lost it -

The Voice of Russia ‏@VoiceofRussia · 39s
#Lavrov: #Russia will not threaten anyone for own interests unlike #US http://(link tracking not allowed)/1mGtqOg




Kremlin: Russia will retaliate to attack on its interests

Russia's Foreign Minister has issued a stark warning to the Ukrainian government, saying that his country will retaliate if its interests are threatened.

Sergei Lavrov's words came as Ukraine's Deputy Prime Minister announced a new phase of "anti-terrorist" actions against pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine.


This is the most unorganized and contradicting group I have ever seen. Its like the government of Russia has been replaced with the case of HeeHaw.


What's next - Putin meeting with his kidnapped scientists at his cloud base?
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:44 AM
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KyivPost ‏@KyivPost · 4m
Shyshatsky leaves post of head of Donetsk Regional Council www.kyivpost.com...




KyivPost ‏@KyivPost · 4m
Dmitry Tymchuk's military blog: #Ukraine ready to meet the enemy www.kyivpost.com...




KyivPost ‏@KyivPost · 5m
#Sloviansk separatists claim they freed American reporter Ostrovsky several days ago www.kyivpost.com...



A bit ominous -

Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews · 6m
Ukraine PM: Russian attempts to start conflict in Ukraine will lead to military conflict in Europe - @Reuters www.breakingnews.com...



another head scratcher -

RT ‏@RT_com · 4m
#Lavrov: West media confident they had complete media monopoly & there wouldn’t be any competition for them on.rt.com...

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Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 26s
Interview with #American Journalist Simon #Ostrovsky after his Release in East #Ukraine youtu.be... | EMPR Video

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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:48 AM
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euronews ‏@euronews · 1m
Ukrainian PM Arseny Yatseniuk said on Friday that #Russia wanted to start World War Three by occupying #Ukraine - Reuters



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:48 AM
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RT ‏@RT_com · 4m #Lavrov: West media confident they had complete media monopoly & there wouldn’t be any competition for them on.rt.com...


Statements such as this are a classical example of deflection and turning of attention by attributing your actions to the opposing side.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:05 AM
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Oh boy, another round, this is getting really close to all out open conflict, IF Russia goes trough with this, the Petrodollar will see its last hour... BRIC ( CHINA )


Russian economy minister Alexei Ulyukaev said S&P’s downgrade of Russia’s rating was expected by investors, won’t significantly change their behavior, adding the obvious that the decision to cut Russia’s rating was partly political, partly based on economic situation. In other words, entirely symbolic





Russian presidential adviser Sergei Glazyev proposed plan of 15 measures to protect country’s economy if sanctions applied, Vedomosti newspaper reports, citing Glazyev’s letter to Finance Ministry. According to Vedomosti as Bloomberg reported, Glazyev proposed:

Russia should withdraw all assets, accounts in dollars, euros from NATO countries to neutral ones
Russia should start selling NATO member sovereign bonds before Russia’s foreign-currency accounts are frozen
Central bank should reduce dollar assets, sell sovereign bonds of countries that support sanctions
Russia should limit commercial banks’ FX assets to prevent speculation on ruble, capital outflows
Central bank should increase money supply so that state cos., banks may refinance foreign loans
Russia should use national currencies in trade with customs Union members, other non-dollar, non-euro partners
In other words, a full-blown scorched earth campaign by Russia.

www.zerohedge.com...



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:16 AM
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marqs @MarQs__ BREAKING: Reports say #Ukraine helicopter hit by RPG at #Kramatorsk airfield. Dead and wounded reported. #Ukraine #Russia


Unverified


RT @RT_com #UKRAINE: Reports of shooting and explosions in Kramatorsk on.rt.com/1q9y34 pic.twitter.com/ia58UgueE0 1 min ago 14 retweets |

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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:18 AM
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ConflictBreakingNews ‏@MiddleEast_BRK 5m

News of a destroyed Mil Mi-8 helicopter in #Kramatorsk is confirmed now. Course and casualties not.



ConflictBreakingNews ‏@MiddleEast_BRK 11m

#BREAKINGREPORT "#Kramatork #RPG attack destroyed one starting #Mil_Mi_8 heli and resulted in a number of dead and wounded." - espreso.tv



ConflictBreakingNews ‏@MiddleEast_BRK 26m

Locals report "4 explosions" ... From 1 exploding helicopter w/a technical issue?! ... pic.twitter.com/Axom7UilLv


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Mircea Barbu ‏@mirceabarbu 20s

At Kramatorsk airfield. Soldiers have sorounded the area. Heavy smoke inside the base. #ukraine #Slavyansk pic.twitter.com/VghI2P3x2G

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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:26 AM
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Series of explosions rock Kramatorsk airfield in eastern Ukraine (VIDEOS)

rt.com...



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:28 AM
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Conflicting statements regarding Kramatorsk airfield incident:

- there are those saying the helicopter was hit by an RPG after take-off and that gunfire was also heard;
- soldiers say it was just a technical error and also some ammunition seems to have also detonated/ignited.

Still waiting for actual confirmed info.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:31 AM
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Let me guess
2 versions
Russia : - soldiers say it was just a technical error and also some ammunition seems to have also detonated/ignited.

Ukraine puppet goverment: - there are those saying the helicopter was hit by an RPG after take-off and that gunfire was also heard;

Lol.



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