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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 23s
50 companies, banks & 33 Yanukovych closest people are under investigation for laundering government money www.pravda.com.ua... … #Ukraine



France, Germany show EU support for Georgia as Ukraine crisis mounts

Putin foe Navalny avoids detention during new Russian trial



Another independent source of information locked down under Putin.
Russia's VKontakte CEO says he was fired, flees Russia


(Reuters) - Pavel Durov, the founder of VKontakte, Russia's largest social network, said on Tuesday he was fired and had fled the country as allies of the Kremlin gained full control of the site.

Known as Russia's answer to Facebook, VKontakte (VK) has been the focus of an ownership battle since last April, when the United Capital Partners (UCP) fund bought 48 percent of the company's shares.




Russia uses excuse of west to clamp down on anti-putin groups in Russia - typical.
Putin warns against letting West use anti-Kremlin groups
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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: cosmonova
a reply to: renden

The main question here is why international community is ignoring the fact that power in Ukraine is led by Neo-Nazis???



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: zilebeliveunknown
a reply to: cosmonova
a reply to: renden

The main question here is why international community is ignoring the fact that power in Ukraine is led by Neo-Nazis???


Because the international community has access to more than just Russian propaganda and exercises independent thought and due diligence instead of believing what Russia tells them to believe.


Rear Adm. John Kirby ‏@PentagonPresSec · 10m
#Secdef calls Russian announcement of new exercises on Ukraine's border "dangerously destabilizing."




Tabitha Bliss ‏@BlissTabitha · 5m
Fighting Breaks Out As Ukraine Deploys Tanks, APCs, Troops In Slavyansk: Deaths Reported http://(link tracking not allowed)/Pyoq1Y




PHILIPPINE NEWS ‏@BalitaNgayon · 7m
UN chief warns Ukraine crisis could 'spin out of control' ift.tt... via ABS-CBN



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: zilebeliveunknown
For the sake of information, after a quite of digging as you won't find this piece in western MSM, I present you who are the Neo-Nazi figures holding important seats in Ukrainian parliament.

First some background on "Svoboda" party and "Right Sector":


Svoboda ("Freedom") was founded in 1991 as the Social National Party of Ukraine.

The party idolizes Stepan Bandera, whose followers fought on the side of the Nazis during World War II against the Red Army and Ukrainian communist militias.

Bandera’s Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) had direct support from the Germans: Hitler wanted them to police Ukraine after the Germans took it, and the OUN organized volunteer militias that actively participated in the Holocaust.

"The Jews of the Soviet Union," declared the Banderists, "are the most loyal supporters of the Bolshevik Regime and the vanguard of Muscovite imperialism in the Ukraine."

When the Germans took Lvov in the summer of 1941, the Banderists sent a message to Lvov’s Jews in the form of a pamphlet which said: "We will lay your heads at Hitler’s feet"!
Which they did; the OUN worked with the SS to round up and slaughter 4,000 of the city’s Jews. Their weapons of choice: everything from guns to metal poles.



Right Sector (Ukrainian: Пра́вий се́ктор, Pravyi Sektor) is a Ukrainian nationalist political party and paramilitary collective of several organizations, described by some major publications as having far right, nationalist, or ultranationalist views.

The group claims to have at least 5,000 to 10,000 members.

It first emerged at the end of November 2013 at the Euromaidan protests in Kiev, as an alliance of far-right Ukrainian nationalist groups and the Ukrainian National Assembly – Ukrainian National Self Defence (UNA-UNSO).



Neo-Nazis holding important seats in Ukrainian parliament and government:



1. Oleh Tyahnybok, Svoboda leader, now a top official of the Ukrainian Parliament, is an unrepentant anti-Semite.
In the summer of 2004, he made a speech to his followers at the gravesite of a Banderist commander in which he declared: "You are the ones that the Moscow-Jewish mafia ruling Ukraine fears most."

His peroration also made reference to "Kikes" as prominent among those the Banderists fought.
Tyahnybok was expelled from Parliament for his remarks, but the "revolution" has installed him back in his seat – and more powerful than ever.




2. Ihor Tenyukh, interim defense minister and a member of Svoboda’s political council. Formerly commander of Ukraine’s navy, in 2008, during Russia’s war with Georgia, he ordered Ukrainian warships to block the entrance of the Russian Navy to the bay of Sevastopol.




3. Andriy Parubiy, National Security Council chief, co-founded Svoboda back when it was the “Social National” (ahem!) party.




4. Dmytro Yarosh, deputy head of the National Security Council, i.e. the police, and the founder-leader of "Right Sector," a militant neo-Nazi paramilitary group that took charge of security in the Maiden.




5. Oleh Makhnitsky, Svoboda member of parliament, is prosecutor-general.




6. Oleksandr Sych, Svoboda parliamentarian and the party’s chief ideologist, is deputy prime minister for economic affairs.




7. Serhiy Kvit, a leading member of Svoboda, is to head up the Education Ministry.




8. Andriy Moknyk, the new Minister of Ecology, has been Svoboda’s envoy to other European fascist parties.
Last year, he met with representatives of Italy’s violent neo-fascist gang, Forza Nuovo.




9. Ihor Shvaika, agro-oligarch and a member of Svoboda, has been appointed Minister of Agriculture. One of the richest men in the country, his massive investments in agriculture would seem to indicate a slight conflict of interest.



check this one out, somewhere in the middle of this clip you can see a member of Ukrainian parliament from Svoboda party making a speech about 'fallen heros'. Absolutely amazing to think that these people are in power today, sponzored by US&EU. Where is this world going to?

'In the former Soviet republic Ukraine controversial video has surfaced showing the reburial of Ukrainians who fought for an SS Division during World War Two, and the reburial was sanctioned by church officials and overseen by officials dressed in Nazi uniforms.'

www.youtube.com...



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra
Why are you approving declared Neo-Nazis to be part of Ukraine leadership?



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:20 PM
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Talking with Poland’s foreign minister about the Ukraine crisis and Russia’s next moves

on the proposal by Putin to break Ukraine into smaller bits and hand out those pieces to surrounding countries.



Somebody told me that you heard Putin talking out loud about dividing Ukraine awhile ago. Is that true?

Oh yes, President Putin made a speech at the Bucharest NATO Summit in 2008, at which he spoke about Ukraine as an artificial country put together from bits of other countries. And yes, we have received a letter from the deputy speaker of the Russian Duma, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, proposing that Poland take five provinces of Ukraine. He sent similar letters to Hungary and Romania, also making territorial proposals to them.


When?

It was a month ago. We told him we were not doing it.






Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 5m
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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: zilebeliveunknown
a reply to: cosmonova
a reply to: renden

The main question here is why international community is ignoring the fact that power in Ukraine is led by Neo-Nazis???


Because it's not about any community, local or international, it's about a small group of private interest, regardless if they call themselves Zionist, NWO, Neo-Nazis, Corporate elite, or whatever else, they are all the same people with the same agenda - total world domination and its depopulation.

They use the same old fears to use and manipulate public opinion to hide their agenda.

China and Russia seem to be some of the last partially independent powers that are able to make their own decision, and protect them.

When exact same crap as in all these "revolutions" was attempted in China, and Chinese Muslims were agitated to go against Chinese government, over 270 of them were simply mowed down by the Chinese army.



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: cosmonova
Unbelievable!!!
And with Nazi uniforms!?
Just to remind everyone the year is 2014, and we're still seeing Nazi uniforms!



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: renden

over 270 of them were simply mowed down .

Or as Putin would say - The good ole days...



PzFeed Top News ‏@PzFeed · 3h
Russian army moving dozens of APCs on a field between Rostov-on-Don and the Ukrainian border - pzfeed.com... … pic.twitter.com/qeZfW4nRfg




Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 3h
Positions on imposing tougher sanctions against #Russia | EMPR Post #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/KSe8X5Coul




The Lead CNN ‏@TheLeadCNN · 3h
Analysis: Kremlin doesn't see Ukraine as a real country cnn.it... - @juliaioffe @JeffreyGoldberg on #TheLead



Oh this is rich, pathetic and hilarious all at the same time. Russia has lost its damned mind -

Olexiy Solohubenko ‏@OS1954 · 4h
Russia can use Article 51 of UN Charter (self-defence) to bring in troops to #Ukraine say Ambo Churkin - trying to legalise invasion



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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: zilebeliveunknown
For the sake of information, after a quite of digging as you won't find this piece in western MSM, I present you who are the Neo-Nazi figures holding important seats in Ukrainian parliament.

First some background on "Svoboda" party and "Right Sector":


Svoboda ("Freedom") was founded in 1991 as the Social National Party of Ukraine.

The party idolizes Stepan Bandera, whose followers fought on the side of the Nazis during World War II against the Red Army and Ukrainian communist militias.

Bandera’s Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) had direct support from the Germans: Hitler wanted them to police Ukraine after the Germans took it, and the OUN organized volunteer militias that actively participated in the Holocaust.

"The Jews of the Soviet Union," declared the Banderists, "are the most loyal supporters of the Bolshevik Regime and the vanguard of Muscovite imperialism in the Ukraine."

When the Germans took Lvov in the summer of 1941, the Banderists sent a message to Lvov’s Jews in the form of a pamphlet which said: "We will lay your heads at Hitler’s feet"!
Which they did; the OUN worked with the SS to round up and slaughter 4,000 of the city’s Jews. Their weapons of choice: everything from guns to metal poles.



Right Sector (Ukrainian: Пра́вий се́ктор, Pravyi Sektor) is a Ukrainian nationalist political party and paramilitary collective of several organizations, described by some major publications as having far right, nationalist, or ultranationalist views.

The group claims to have at least 5,000 to 10,000 members.

It first emerged at the end of November 2013 at the Euromaidan protests in Kiev, as an alliance of far-right Ukrainian nationalist groups and the Ukrainian National Assembly – Ukrainian National Self Defence (UNA-UNSO).



Neo-Nazis holding important seats in Ukrainian parliament and government:



1. Oleh Tyahnybok, Svoboda leader, now a top official of the Ukrainian Parliament, is an unrepentant anti-Semite.
In the summer of 2004, he made a speech to his followers at the gravesite of a Banderist commander in which he declared: "You are the ones that the Moscow-Jewish mafia ruling Ukraine fears most."

His peroration also made reference to "Kikes" as prominent among those the Banderists fought.
Tyahnybok was expelled from Parliament for his remarks, but the "revolution" has installed him back in his seat – and more powerful than ever.




2. Ihor Tenyukh, interim defense minister and a member of Svoboda’s political council. Formerly commander of Ukraine’s navy, in 2008, during Russia’s war with Georgia, he ordered Ukrainian warships to block the entrance of the Russian Navy to the bay of Sevastopol.




3. Andriy Parubiy, National Security Council chief, co-founded Svoboda back when it was the “Social National” (ahem!) party.




4. Dmytro Yarosh, deputy head of the National Security Council, i.e. the police, and the founder-leader of "Right Sector," a militant neo-Nazi paramilitary group that took charge of security in the Maiden.




5. Oleh Makhnitsky, Svoboda member of parliament, is prosecutor-general.




6. Oleksandr Sych, Svoboda parliamentarian and the party’s chief ideologist, is deputy prime minister for economic affairs.




7. Serhiy Kvit, a leading member of Svoboda, is to head up the Education Ministry.




8. Andriy Moknyk, the new Minister of Ecology, has been Svoboda’s envoy to other European fascist parties.
Last year, he met with representatives of Italy’s violent neo-fascist gang, Forza Nuovo.




9. Ihor Shvaika, agro-oligarch and a member of Svoboda, has been appointed Minister of Agriculture. One of the richest men in the country, his massive investments in agriculture would seem to indicate a slight conflict of interest.



check this one out, somewhere in the middle of this clip you can see a member of Ukrainian parliament from Svoboda party making a speech about 'fallen heros'. Absolutely amazing to think that these people are in power today, sponzored by US&EU. Where is this world going to?

'In the former Soviet republic Ukraine controversial video has surfaced showing the reburial of Ukrainians who fought for an SS Division during World War Two, and the reburial was sanctioned by church officials and overseen by officials dressed in Nazi uniforms.'

www.youtube.com...


Holy crap, I didn't see that one. Actual Nazi reburial with full uniforms, full honors and a salute?!?! All held as an official event with full support of government officials...

Goddamn sick is what it is, no wonder the Russians are so pissed.


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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:37 PM
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Yanukovych supported the Nazis? I was not aware of that? thank you for bringing that to our attention.

Since the funeral took place in Ukraine and he was President and failed to do anything to stop it, he must support it right?



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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:37 PM
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What I say is - Go Russians! Kick them Nazi asses, and when the time comes, American Patriots will open up a second front to rid the world of the Nazi scum on both sides of the pond!
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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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You are mixing up the Nazi Svoboda party with Yanokovich, different things, but it's OK, things are so terribly complicated when Zionist propaganda gets involved.
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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: renden
a reply to: Xcathdra

You are mixing up the Nazi Svoboda party with Yanokovich, different things, but it's OK, things are so terribly complicated when Zionist propaganda gets involved.


Yanukovych was President when this occurred and since he did nothing to stop it, he must support the Nazis - Yes? no?
Aren't "Nazis" the ones who use the term "Zionist"?



KyivPost ‏@KyivPost · 7h
Chief editor of Russia Today (@RT_com) tweets "Ukraine. R.I.P." www.kyivpost.com... … pic.twitter.com/FjJuHvhYgw

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NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 6h
Sweden wants cruise missiles 'for defense.' #Russia #Ukraine www.thelocal.se... … pic.twitter.com/xWjfSrZvvi

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Jacek Saryusz-Wolski ‏@JSaryuszWolski · 5h
Very revealing & fresh Ukraine's public opinion survey on Ukraine & Russia's actions www.iri.org...


Interesting opinion poll results that show Russian is misleading the public on their support in South and East Ukraine.
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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: darkorange
Hi all,

I just don't get it..how come east Ukranian people are called terrorists? Women, children, seniors. Hey, what's up with that and how any one in their sane mind sucks it all up?

..and a reminder for all participants on this thread, this people in SE Ukraine are NOT 'pro-russian'!!!!!

They don't want to lose their country to neither side. These people for federalization. Meaning, INDEPENDENCE from all.
'pro-russian' term is garbage, silently making its way into understanding the issues wrongfully!



Bravo! You seem to understand. The innocent people get caught in between.

I have not said one single thing pro-western nor advocated for EU or USA intervention and yet I am demonized for speaking out against Putin and the nature of this terrible new threat, namely Russian fascism.

You are exactly right that the people of Eastern Ukraine are not a majority pro-Russian and do not support any invasion or annexation. The whole idea of ethnic dichotomy is a propaganda wedge. Most Ukrainians have ethnic Russian in them and nearly all speak Russian as their family language. And yet the demons of nationalism and chauvinism taunt them nightly on state controlled television broadcast from Moscow.

The only thing I have done, and will continue to do, is defend the truth that Euromaidan was a result of a native grassroots movement, not some CIA or other western intelligence spawn. This is more an internal issue facing the entire Ukrainian and yes, Russian people—choose the strong man and surrender to continued corruption and mistreatment in civil affairs or diffuse absolute power. It is about confronting a legacy of internal repression and terror that was never completely settled as Stalin was never defeated but merely denounced after his death.

I have come to understand this so very well while in the midst of Russian intellectuals and belligerents alike. Personally, I was forced to contemplate their pathos first while growing up in the utter chaos of a proxy war fought between the Soviet Union and the West in my own beautiful and ancient culture. Thousands of years uprooted because of outside interference!

For the sake of our better humanity, do not equate being against Russia's actions at present with being in support of the USA or Europe's actions in the past.

You can stand against fascism and abuse of the weak in every powerful nation.

Anybody who just attacks one side reveals their jingoism and hypocrisy.


edit on 24-4-2014 by ALoveSupreme because: typo as its hard to type on touchscreen with nails



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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sent you a pm




Samantha Power ‏@AmbassadorPower · 1m
.@JohnKerry: World knows peaceful protesters don’t come with grenade launchers; Russian operatives didn’t just take wrong turn into Ukraine.

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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: renden
a reply to: Xcathdra

You are mixing up the Nazi Svoboda party with Yanokovich, different things, but it's OK, things are so terribly complicated when Zionist propaganda gets involved.


Yanukovych was President when this occurred and since he did nothing to stop it, he must support the Nazis - Yes? no?


Oh, so now Yanukovich didn't do enough, right? So when the Neo-Nazi "Svoboda" party is openly supported by USA and by John McCain personally, and Yanukovich tries to dissolve it he's not doing enough and is a dictator at the same time, but when he refuses to give the order to shoot the exact same people during Maidan, he's also some sort of evil character.

www.presstv.com...

www.salon.com...

www.globalresearch.ca...

www.globalresearch.ca...



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: ALoveSupreme

originally posted by: darkorange
Hi all,

I just don't get it..how come east Ukranian people are called terrorists? Women, children, seniors. Hey, what's up with that and how any one in their sane mind sucks it all up?

..and a reminder for all participants on this thread, this people in SE Ukraine are NOT 'pro-russian'!!!!!

They don't want to lose their country to neither side. These people for federalization. Meaning, INDEPENDENCE from all.
'pro-russian' term is garbage, silently making its way into understanding the issues wrongfully!



Bravo! You seem to understand. The innocent people get caught in between.

I have not said one single thing pro-western nor advocated for EU or USA intervention and yet I am demonized for speaking out against Putin and the nature of this terrible new threat, namely Russian fascism.

You are exactly right that the people of Eastern Ukraine are not a majority pro-Russian and do not support any invasion or annexation. The whole idea of ethnic dichotomy is a propaganda wedge. Most Ukrainians have ethnic Russian in them and nearly all speak Russian as their family language. And yet the demons of nationalism and chauvinism taunt them nightly on state controlled television broadcast from Moscow.

The only thing I have done, and will continue to do, is defend the truth that Euromaidan was a result of a native grassroots movement, not some CIA or other western intelligence spawn. This is more an internal issue facing the entire Ukrainian and yes, Russian people—choose the strong man and surrender to continued corruption and mistreatment in civil affairs or diffuse absolute power. It is about confronting a legacy of internal repression and terror that was never completely settled as Stalin was never defeated but merely denounced after his death.

I have come to understand this so very well while in the midst of Russian intellectuals and belligerents alike. Personally, I was forced to contemplate their pathos first while growing up in the utter chaos of a proxy war fought between the Soviet Union and the West in my own beautiful and ancient culture. Thousands of years uprooted because of outside interference!

For the sake of our better humanity, do not equate being against Russia's actions at present with being in support of the USA or Europe's actions in the past.

You can stand against fascism and abuse of the weak in every powerful nation.

Anybody who just attacks one side reveals their jingoism and hypocrisy.



Yes, yes, so many fancy words, yet a single picture speaks a thousand of them.

Here are three pictures of US government officials publicly and happily posing with their openly Nazi pals;

static4.businessinsider.com...

www.channel4.com...

www.dojorat.com...

And these people are their state armed Neo-Nazi Army;

gdb.rferl.org...

Lets say more fancy words to cover all that up, about sides and such, and innocence caught in between...








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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: renden
a reply to: Xcathdra

You are mixing up the Nazi Svoboda party with Yanokovich, different things, but it's OK, things are so terribly complicated when Zionist propaganda gets involved.


With such a confusing diatribe, nobody can be sure who this person hates the most—Jews, Ukrainian 'fascists', non Christians, or socially progressive Democrats in USA.



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 09:05 PM
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Actually I am using your position.

Currently you constantly state the entire government in Kiev is Nazi neo fascist etc when in fact they are not. I was pointing out the contradiction you showed by narrowly applying the Nazi funeral to one party.

Why the discrepancy? Why is Yanukovych and the other members of the Ukraine government at that time not Nazis but they all are now?

Convenience?
Propaganda?
Ignorance?
Confusion?
Or is it when they support Russia there is a difference and when they stop supporting Russia they are all Nazis?


Samantha Power ‏@AmbassadorPower · 15m
Not a single Russian official has gone out publicly in #Ukraine to call on the separatists to support the Geneva agreement and give up arms.




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#Kerry blames #Russia for financing & arming separatism (terrorism) in Eastern #Ukraine news.liga.net... … |EMPR pic.twitter.com/2SJhXnfcTg



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