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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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The site The Interpreter Mag points out that there is a somewhat official confirmation of the news about leaflets regarding Jews:


In an interview with Ukrainian press, Pushilin confirmed that the flyers, marked with the emblem of his organization, were really distributed in Donetsk. But unlike various English translations, in the original interview with Ukrainian media, Pushilin not only rejected the content of the flyers, but also denied that his organization was behind their printing. “Some idiots yesterday were giving out these flyers in targeted areas,” he said, claiming that he had never himself used the “people’s governor” title the flyer bestows on him. Pushilin did not suggest who else may have been handing out the anti-Semetic flyers, but went on to criticize the original site for posting it online.


www.interpretermag.com...




posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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RT ‏@RT_com · 2m
#Putin reveals #NATO chief secretly recorded their talk, leaked it to media on.rt.com...



The Russian president didn’t specify when the meeting took place, but Rasmussen was his country’s Prime Minister between 2001 and 2009.



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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 01:30 PM
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Dutzy
The site The Interpreter Mag points out that there is a somewhat official confirmation of the news about leaflets regarding Jews:


In an interview with Ukrainian press, Pushilin confirmed that the flyers, marked with the emblem of his organization, were really distributed in Donetsk. But unlike various English translations, in the original interview with Ukrainian media, Pushilin not only rejected the content of the flyers, but also denied that his organization was behind their printing. “Some idiots yesterday were giving out these flyers in targeted areas,” he said, claiming that he had never himself used the “people’s governor” title the flyer bestows on him. Pushilin did not suggest who else may have been handing out the anti-Semetic flyers, but went on to criticize the original site for posting it online.


www.interpretermag.com...



Fox News ‏@FoxNews · 5m
Kerry confirms report of flier telling Jews in #Ukraine city to register fxn.ws...



posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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Xcathdra

The WorldPost ‏@TheWorldPost · 1m
Putin says Alaska is too cold to annex


Lol, does that mean we can go ahead and annex Siberia then??
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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 01:43 PM
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Lol... Nope.. We can't.. That territory belongs to China. They have lots of people and will need more "breathing room".



The Voice of Russia ‏@VoiceofRussia · 13m
#Russia has no plans to send its troops to #Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei #Lavrov said http://(link tracking not allowed)/1lctJ1L


RT ‏@RT_com · 2h
#LAVROV: Ukrainians should fix the crisis themselves – that’s a key issue for us WATCH NOW on.rt.com... pic.twitter.com/0FLU3mi4Ug


Like I was saying, conflicting positions.

Putin claims he wont recognize elections.
Putin states he hopes he doesn't have to invade E. Ukraine.


Steven Pifer ‏@steven_pifer · 1h
US-EU-#Russia-#Ukraine meeting more productive than expected. See joint statement. pic.twitter.com/xAMOnWe24p Now, will it be implemented?


Red flag
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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:19 PM
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Xcathdra
Has anyone been able to confirm that Russia has in fact started telling people in E / S Ukraine to stop and turn in weapons?


if that's true then its being done with a nod and a wink.

Russia is using the camera to win this and will sit back and record as these "Terrorists" get killed, hell you even get a $10,000 reward if you point the finger and hand someone in.

Once Russia has collected the proof it needs then it will invade to protect the "Terrorists" and the Ukraine will be split in two I thinks.

Only days after people sat at home, did nothing were they told that wages were being cut by over 60%, Pensions halved, so and so on and after that I would vote to join the Muslim Brotherhood to change things back to how they were before so the west is going have to stump up some real cash later just to hold on to the north of the country.


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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:19 PM
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Xcathdra

NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 3m
Canada also sending approximately 20 military officers to NATO headquarters in Brussels for planning. #Ukraine www.atlanticcouncil.org...


About Canada sending 6 CF-18s and 20 military officers to NATO

Guess Canada can expect a few more Russian bummer to test our air space
Hope the remaining 15 CF-18s are working

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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:29 PM
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yes,, it's true,,











posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:40 PM
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Automatic weapons and grenades could be heard in Kramatorske hromadske.tv/society/535024… |EMPR News #russiainvadesukraine pic.twitter.com/7iC9cloYd6



It’s reported that separatist check point in #Kramatorsk is on fire & military jets r flying over the city @HromadskeTV |EMPR News #Ukraine



#Russia is ready to react to #Ukraine barring entry to Russian men in the country glavcom.ua/news/200106.ht… |ENPR News


They are talking something in Geneva doing something else on the ground.
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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:40 PM
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Is it just me that's reminded of the agreement made between Neville Chamberlain and Hitler after the latter annexed czechoslovakia?

The way I see it is that the agreement still gives Russia an "out" as far as invading goes as it all hinges on the "pro-Russian" forces giving up their positions and weapons, if they don't, and Kiev pushes the offensive, Russia gets their pretext.



posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:44 PM
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Trillium

Xcathdra

NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 3m
Canada also sending approximately 20 military officers to NATO headquarters in Brussels for planning. #Ukraine www.atlanticcouncil.org...


About Canada sending 6 CF-18s and 20 military officers to NATO

Guess Canada can expect a few more Russian bummer to test our air space
Hope the remaining 15 CF-18s are working

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The US wont allow it to happen.. We have Canada's back.


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Russia's involvement is admitted by Putin. To stir the pot to the point of "pro Russians" arming themselves and attacking / seizing government buildings only to warn Ukraine to not use force to subdue the "protestors".

This is the part that confuses me. Its not the cold war anymore so why does Putin think the propaganda they push is going to be accepted and believed?
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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:46 PM
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dragonridr

rigel4

asen_y2k
Should we beleive Lavrovs statement he signed for de escalation, do you guys think the situation may de escalate?


No I don't think de escalation is on the cards at all.

Putin is liar.. and Lavrov has to repeat the lies..
Putin will say the right things, while in the background
doing what Putin always does.. He's a KGB Officer of the Soviet Union
always was and always will be.

Plus... he's now got 50 Billion Dollars of personal wealth.

Wait...Actually if i was Russian.. I would be asking who that money actually belongs too.

Not Putin that's for sure.


Well a week ago i would have agreed but as i look into russias financial troubles they are trying to find a way out. Even with Russia denying it the sanctions are hurting Russia bad and this was a limited sanctions they were talking a second round if Russia didnt negotiate. When you finance minister threatens to sue the US in the WTO the sanctions are hurting.


Maybe you're right.. Would like to see Putin
Humiliated though



posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:49 PM
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rigel4
Maybe you're right.. Would like to see Putin
Humiliated though



He does not need anyone else's help to be humiliated. He is doing that all on his own.



Defence Ministry UA ‏@DefenceUA · 2m
Lawmakers held a closed meeting with heads of security agencies
www.facebook.com...
|DefenceUA #UnitedForUkraine pic.twitter.com/CGlQ8icPE2

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Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 10m
It’s reported that separatist check point in #Kramatorsk is on fire & military jets r flying over the city @HromadskeTV |EMPR News #Ukraine

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Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 36m
IMPORTANT: Russian news agency ITAR-TASS shared FALSE info today that #Ukraine reps weren’t present @ #Geneva meeting www.pravda.com.ua...


Russian Agency extended false information about the fact that the Ukrainian delegation on talks in Geneva.

About it in his Twitter account informs the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The Ukrainian delegation actively participates in pitching in Geneva. Russian Agency Itar Tass gives false information, based on dubious sources.

Earlier Itar-Tass reported that the head of the diplomatic agencies of Russia, the EU and the United States working on a document on the withdrawal of the Ukrainian crisis, but the meeting takes place without the Ukrainian side.



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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:53 PM
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The Geneva deal is toilet paper already


RT @RT_com Anti-govt activists take control of TV tower in #Donetsk region on.rt.com/qr0o4d 2 mins ago 16 retweets | 2 replies



posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 02:58 PM
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Somehow i am not overly encouraged by your assurances.













ya.



posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 03:01 PM
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I wouldn't confuse the American government with that of the American people. Secondly who is your issue with? The US or Canada's defense budget and procurement?


Yeah I think Russia is doing all it can to make sure the talks don't succeed.


RT ‏@RT_com · 1m
BREAKING: #Obama: We are preparing additional sanctions against Russia on.rt.com...

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William Hague ‏@WilliamJHague · 3m
Rapid implementation of the agreement is critical, particularly commitments by Russia on disarming of armed groups. #Ukraine

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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 03:10 PM
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My only curiosity is I wonder if Obamma is regretting trying to have closer ties to Russia. See i was thinking his closer ties with russia, you know the whole reset thing allowed Putin to get to know him and part of the reason this is happening is because he knows him to well.He figured out Obama doesnt make the tough calls he waits for others to than plans.Just like this Ukraine thing hes waiting for Europe to make the calls than he acts. Id say hes almost a puprt of the EU at this point.



posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 03:20 PM
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Reports that Russian armed militants have fled Kramatorsk. Addional updates soon |EMPR News #russiainvadesukraine



Ukrainian journalist Lefter seized by terrorist in #Slaviansk. Now in captivity ift.tt/1j8S338 @interfaxua | EMPR #Ukraine

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posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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"I wouldn't confuse the American government with that of the American people. "

actually the Government of the American people, is ,,By the People, Of the People, For the People.

so just what are ordinary people supposed too believe?



posted on Apr, 17 2014 @ 03:36 PM
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Xcathdra
Yeah I think Russia is doing all it can to make sure the talks don't succeed.


and then you repeat
"BREAKING: #Obama: We are preparing additional sanctions against Russia"

I think you answered you own question.

Mr Putin looks like a statesman, needs no scripts unlike banker puppet Obama who needs to read his scripts every five seconds but you do know that sanctions are an act of war so don't be too upset if the gloves come off or mind if people in Europe (who have no say anyway) openly say that they would like to sit this one out.

"preparing additional sanctions"

They would have disused this weeks ago, you will know the better man if this turns out to be yet another one of them "Putin's grandmother cannot come to Disney" type of sanctions

I won't get into the rights and wrongs over the Georgia conflict (the EU settled that one) but you do know it only took Putin's scrap metal tanks about a day to sweep in and clear the ground so do watch out for that left hook if you want to fight him.



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