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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 03:09 PM
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zilebeliveunknown
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But that's no good for me now, I'm shifting to wood.


And here in the US we have the EPA targeting wood stoves for not being compliant. It's all pretty hinky IMO.

Pretty much every hot spot on earth right now can be connected to energy or rare earth materials.




posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 03:20 PM
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Russian Paratroopers Hold Massive Drills as Crimea Vote Nears


MOSCOW, March 11 (RIA Novosti) – An airborne division based in central Russia began large-scale exercises Tuesday against the backdrop of an ongoing political and security crisis in Ukraine. The Defense Ministry said units of the 98th Guards Airborne Division, based in Ivanovo, a city east of Moscow, were put on high alert and moved to unspecified locations to “check readiness” in simulated combat conditions.

Four thousand troops, 36 military transport aircraft and an unspecified number of combat vehicles are taking part in the exercises, which will run until March 14. The drills will include a massive simultaneous paradrop involving 3,500 servicemen, the ministry said. The drills come in the wake of a number of military exercises in Russia’s western regions in the past days, including air defense drills, combat readiness snap checks and a launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile. Russia says the exercises are not linked to the development in Crimea.

The turbulent political crisis gripping Ukraine has led to a standoff between Russia and the West over the fate of Crimea, an autonomous Ukrainian region with a narrow ethnic Russian majority. Crimean authorities have refused to recognize the legitimacy of the new central government in Kiev, which was installed after the ouster of President Viktor Yanukovych in late February. Local officials announced last week that they intended for the peninsula to become part of Russia. A referendum on the issue has been set for March 16. Authorities in Kiev and international leaders have condemned the referendum as illegitimate.

Ukraine has lost control over Crimea in recent days as thousands of heavily armed troops without insignia and traveling in military vehicles with Russian plates swarmed the area, taking control of administration buildings and taking over military bases. The Kremlin has denied the troops are Russian and has instead described them as “local militias.”

With Russia performing military drills on an almost daily basis it really does put some perspective on the uphill task facing Ukraine if they do have to defend themselves. Russia has a military force that is one of the best funded and equipped in the world which makes them a match for anyone including the US army.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 03:28 PM
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Think this is may be the origin

www.reuters.com...



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 03:28 PM
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That is true and it seems the hawkish politician may have their way and they may receive more funds to ramp up their weapons, and maintenance whereas before it wasn't a priority.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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Oh ok that makes better sense. That article is saying that Russia has 200k combat ready troops available, and not that they are massing them on the border.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 03:53 PM
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These local militia groups do seem to have an alarming amount of military might to flex and strategically employed organizational skills beyond belief.
Mindful of Sundays seemingly pre arranged referendum sna•fu



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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LAtest Dispatch from the VICE News crew...




Intro appears to show the reporter being ID's and told to stand still or else?!!



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:05 PM
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Is this the real strategy or empire unfolding?

We need to know this truth. Putin brings the Crimean military today and says 'Crimea is Russian,
The whole story is all about. " Neo-Eurasianism in Turkey is dangerous
Quote from: Historian of the Crimean Halil Inalcik's


Read more

qha.com.ua...

qha.com.ua...

www.academia.edu...



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:07 PM
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Not condoning the Berkut's actions or anything, but as soon as they saw US and UK IDs they probably thought they were spies. They probably think everyone is a spy until proven otherwise.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:14 PM
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The most interesting part from that clip, besides the checkpoint adrenalin rush, was the mine field and barbed wire fence footage...

the reports seemed to be conflicting on whether or not that happened last time I had a chance to look, but, IF, the translation of the signage is correct, it does appear from this clip that mines have been laid?



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:15 PM
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Well that confirms that the Ukrainians (military) are digging in now because the Russians are in the Ukrainian mainland. @1:40 into the vid. Yet OUR news has nothing to say about that??
edit on 11-3-2014 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:28 PM
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There are those who call VICE NEWS left of center, but I disagree. They seem to be a rare commodity these days. Actual journalists. From what I am seeing, the SHTF is not to far off. I hope I'm wrong.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:30 PM
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This wouldn't be the first time that the parliament within Crimea has voted to be independent of Ukraine. Such a vote was passed in 1992 and the Verkhovna Rada (parliament) of Ukraine annulled the vote. Ukraine went into a compromise with Crimea and that's when it was granted some autonomy. Crimea tried to create its own constitution several times with it being annulled by the Ukrainian parliament soon after until they came to some agreements for the final Crimean constitution.

Here's a NY Times article on the 1992 Crimean Independence vote: www.nytimes.com...



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:30 PM
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Yes there are multiple reports of mines being laid and pictures/video of it as well. You don't mine fields if you plan on leaving anytime soon. The Russians are digging in and it looks to me like they won't be giving up Crimea without a fight. Despite all the talk about "appeasement", it would appear that most of the Crimean people support joining the Russian federation, so I say let them go. NATO should be more concerned with backing up the mainland and making sure Russia doesn't move any further into the Ukraine.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:41 PM
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ProfessorT
Russian Paratroopers Hold Massive Drills as Crimea Vote Nears


MOSCOW, March 11 (RIA Novosti) – An airborne division based in central Russia began large-scale exercises Tuesday against the backdrop of an ongoing political and security crisis in Ukraine. The Defense Ministry said units of the 98th Guards Airborne Division, based in Ivanovo, a city east of Moscow, were put on high alert and moved to unspecified locations to “check readiness” in simulated combat conditions.

Four thousand troops, 36 military transport aircraft and an unspecified number of combat vehicles are taking part in the exercises, which will run until March 14. The drills will include a massive simultaneous paradrop involving 3,500 servicemen, the ministry said. The drills come in the wake of a number of military exercises in Russia’s western regions in the past days, including air defense drills, combat readiness snap checks and a launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile. Russia says the exercises are not linked to the development in Crimea.

The turbulent political crisis gripping Ukraine has led to a standoff between Russia and the West over the fate of Crimea, an autonomous Ukrainian region with a narrow ethnic Russian majority. Crimean authorities have refused to recognize the legitimacy of the new central government in Kiev, which was installed after the ouster of President Viktor Yanukovych in late February. Local officials announced last week that they intended for the peninsula to become part of Russia. A referendum on the issue has been set for March 16. Authorities in Kiev and international leaders have condemned the referendum as illegitimate.

Ukraine has lost control over Crimea in recent days as thousands of heavily armed troops without insignia and traveling in military vehicles with Russian plates swarmed the area, taking control of administration buildings and taking over military bases. The Kremlin has denied the troops are Russian and has instead described them as “local militias.”

With Russia performing military drills on an almost daily basis it really does put some perspective on the uphill task facing Ukraine if they do have to defend themselves. Russia has a military force that is one of the best funded and equipped in the world which makes them a match for anyone including the US army.


A match would be equally balanced tho right?

When you compare the Russian military to the US military it is far from matched considering the US military is larger than the next 19 countries combined

It would be slightly one sided, then when you add on NATO forces it's quite scary



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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JacKatMtn
LAtest Dispatch from the VICE News crew...




Intro appears to show the reporter being ID's and told to stand still or else?!!


Wow, really friendly invaders aren't they

Throwing the press out, along with the Ukrainians... It'll be killing the Jews next



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 05:50 PM
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rumour ...
Ukraine gold shipped out...
where is it going???
follow the money....



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 06:11 PM
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Ok, seems staged to me.
The camera man starts to run away from the check point with no apparent reason when Berkut guy tried to legitimize him.
Why?



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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zilebeliveunknown
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Ok, seems staged to me.
The camera man starts to run away from the check point with no apparent reason when Berkut guy tried to legitimize him.
Why?



Not sure about staged but if they wanted the cameraman they would have chased and caught him and taken his footage.
It seems highly suspect that they let him run and gave no chase



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 07:11 PM
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stargatetravels

zilebeliveunknown
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Ok, seems staged to me.
The camera man starts to run away from the check point with no apparent reason when Berkut guy tried to legitimize him.
Why?



Not sure about staged but if they wanted the cameraman they would have chased and caught him and taken his footage.
It seems highly suspect that they let him run and gave no chase


No they knew he had nothing other than their conversation on film just wouldn't be worth the chase.There busy stoping all those terrorists which apparently means Reporters since he has a russian press pass.



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