Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

Sorry, maybe it was already posted:

Russian legislature intends to investigate information about Kiev snipers
Duma deputies intend to investigate the events that occurred in the midst of the struggle for Independence in January in the area surrounding appeared unknown snipers to shoot protesters and "Berkut" .

Estonian Foreign Minister Paet confirmed the authenticity of the conversation with Ashton about snipers in Kiev
International Panorama March 5 , 18:50 UTC +4 TALLINN , March 5. / ITAR-TASS / . Estonian Foreign Ministry confirmed the authenticity of a phone conversation the head of Estonian diplomacy Urmas Paet with EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Catherine Ashton , in which including discussion about snipers , firing in Kiev during actions on Independence Square . Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet Estonian Foreign Minister : deaths on Independence should be investigated "It is unfortunate that such wiretapping conducted at all . This conversation is downloaded today ( the Internet) is not accidental ," - said Paet. Earlier, he said that a conversation with Ashton took place last week , immediately after returning from the Foreign Minister of Ukraine to Estonia. " My conversation with Ashton held last week immediately after the visit to Ukraine . At that time I was in Estonia," - he said. More detailed comments diplomat abstained , " until you look record."

Audio appeared accusing the leaders in the use of snipers Maidan
Audiotape on which , presumably , the head of European diplomacy , Catherine Ashton and Foreign Minister Urmas Paet accused leaders Evromaydana that they hired a sniper victims were dozens of people during the riots in Kiev, on Wednesday appeared on the Internet. The recording date is unknown, but a man with a voice like the voice of the Estonian Foreign Minister , talks about his trip to Kiev, which took place on February 25. In an interview , " Paet " mentions snipers bullets which killed people during protests in Kiev. According to him, all the evidence points to the fact that both protesters and law enforcement officers were killed the same snipers . Furthermore , the narrator notes that " all the more wary of people is the fact that the new coalition are unwilling to investigate the exact circumstances of the incident ." He said that among the people "is rapidly growing awareness that these snipers was not Yanukovych , and behind them was one of the new coalition." " This is extremely annoying factor. Discredits This new coalition from the outset ," - said supposedly Paet. " They need to hold at least a few weeks , then there will be elections ," - said the interlocutor , which is represented as a record Catherine Ashton. " Paet " also said that the level of confidence to the new government in the country " almost zero " and it's all the "background issues related to security , territorial integrity, the Crimea , and so on ." " There is a very strong pressure on MPs . Night to party members come " uninvited guests " , reporters saw as day right in front of the Parliament armed men beat deputy. All this actually happens ," - said party conversation. "

link to record

Two items:

We are sending (additional) rapid-response F-15s teams to Poland and Lithuania:
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During the Georgia wars they still did not interfere with our land route to move materiel into and out of Afghanistan, which we are using currently to leave, what with our ally Pakistan being iffy. I wonder Russia they will close it just to enjoy watching us being stuck there longer? I wonder if we should have let them have it in the first place!

More: The new acting Ukrainian president is a Baptist. Ukraine is only 2-3% Protestant. I wonder what this is about?
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TheBoomersRBusted
More: The new acting Ukrainian president is a Baptist. Ukraine is only 2-3% Protestant. I wonder what this is about?
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Politics and religion don't mix. Strength, the ability to unite, and the courage to not stand down when your beliefs are at stake are really what matters.

Today looks set to be another day of frantic diplomacy. - The President of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, is convening an extraordinary meeting of European Union leaders to discuss the situation in Ukraine and how to de-escalate it. The summit is expected to begin at 1030 GMT and finish with a press conference at around 1400GMT. - Also on Thursday, US Secretary of State John Kerry will participate in the Rome Ministerial Conference on Libya. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov is expected at the meeting. Kerry will also hold a series of bilateral meetings. - The United Nations Security Council is holding a closed-doors meeting at 1930 GMT to discuss Ukraine.

Aljazeera

Talks with the Putin government are a waste of time as it's likely they will be swept out of power within the week if they don't act. Foreign intervention in Ukraine is the red line for the Russian armed forces and if Putin has cold feet he will simply be replaced. The military commanders know what is at stake and this is the moment the Russian military has spent decades planning for. Many knew this day would come.

john452
Talks with the Putin government are a waste of time as it's likely they will be swept out of power within the week. Foreign intervention in Ukraine is the red line for the Russian armed forces and if Putin has cold feet he will simply be replaced. The military commanders know what is at stake and this is the moment the Russian military has spent decades planning for. Many knew this day would come.

So the russian government will be ousted SOON™, Putin will be ejected if he is not more "ballsy". Oh and this has been planned for decades...

Someone is in need of the early morning coffee methinks? Or, its important to read ANYTHING on the subject before posting?

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Wait and see my friend wait and see. It's almost a theoretical impossibility the military won't act given the situation and nobody including Putin will be able to stop them from doing their duty. Russia didn't bankrupt itself building their military to watch the west and others slowly consume them. Ukraine is taking the game of risk one step too far.

BREAKING NEWS:European Union freezes assets of ousted Ukrainian President Yanukovych, his son and 16 other people

09:02: The US Congress is rushing to impose hard-hitting sanctions against Russia in response to its takeover of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula, hoping Europe will follow their lead, AP reports. It says that the American sanctions push represents a rare case of broad agreement among the Obama administration and Democrats and Republicans in both houses of Congress. But they are also united in their concern that American economic penalties will mean little without the participation of European countries with far deeper commercial relations with Russia.

25 Separate Airborne Brigade ( place of dislocation : the village. Guards , Dnipropetrovsk region. ) . In the place of dislocation. Rumored after an internal meeting of the officer corps refused to be nominated to the borders of the Crimea .
80 separate airmobile regiment ( place of deployment : Lviv ) - no information about the movements . According to rumors : in dislocation in full combat readiness .
95 separate airmobile brigade ( place of deployment : Zhitomir ) . In the place of dislocation in full combat readiness .
79 separate airmobile brigade ( place of deployment : Nikolaev) nominated for major highway leading from the Crimea to the mainland instead of 25 separate airborne brigade. Monitor entering / leaving the presence of explosive substances and weapons.

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Source? This sounds mighty interesting.

And also this
09:17: The US will send six additional F-15 fighter jets to enhance Nato's air patrols over the Baltic states, Lithuanian Defence Minister Juozas Olekas tells AFP.

Putin Assasinated?

Surely this cant be true.....nothing on the news yet.

www.epicinter.net...

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Its right on top of the REAL TONY HAWK HOVERBOARD, so, no...

reply to post by Melbourne_Militia


Lol sure xD

Some conflicting news again
09:20: Kiev-based channel One Plus One TV reports that 12 Ukrainian coast guard ships have broken the Russian blockade of the eastern Crimean port of Kerch. The head of the coast guards tells the channel that if they had not moved the ships from Kerch, it is likely that they would have been destroyed (BBC Monitoring).

So these 12 ships where inside the "blockade" but they crossed the "blockade" or else they would have been destroyed? So would you call it a blockade then?

MessageforAll
reply to post by statifik

 

Source? This sounds mighty interesting.

And also this
09:17: The US will send six additional F-15 fighter jets to enhance Nato's air patrols over the Baltic states, Lithuanian Defence Minister Juozas Olekas tells AFP.

info from many sources both official from Ukraine and non-official from forums, blogs of the locals. Naturally, the information on the Russian and Ukrainian languages. English sources do not. There are candid "stuffing information", ie sources like misinformation.

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Sounds like more BS right?

I mean, no ships have been destroyed yet, so why all of a sudden would Russia destroy ships for no reason?

the BS is strong with this one!

For some good news again;

Crimea to have referendum on status March 16 – Deputy PM

A referendum on the status of Crimea will be held March 16, the region’s deputy prime minister announced. Crimeans will be asked to decide if the autonomous republic stays part of Ukraine or joins Russia.
DETAILS TO FOLLOW

rt.com...

MessageforAll
reply to post by Melbourne_Militia

 

Lol sure xD

Some conflicting news again
09:20: Kiev-based channel One Plus One TV reports that 12 Ukrainian coast guard ships have broken the Russian blockade of the eastern Crimean port of Kerch. The head of the coast guards tells the channel that if they had not moved the ships from Kerch, it is likely that they would have been destroyed (BBC Monitoring).

So these 12 ships where inside the "blockade" but they crossed the "blockade" or else they would have been destroyed? So would you call it a blockade then?

Again call for objectivity. Do not use the only sources of information relevant a priori only anti-Russian orientation . We have seen how fiercely Tymoshenko Yatsenyuk Yarosh and the company promoted the shooting of peaceful demonstrators in Kiev on the orders of Yanukovych. And what information pops up now? It is quite possible the shooting is performed with the purpose of provoking opposition snipers . And knows about the European Union and the U.S. State Department . And they sponsor these people. One of them in the open calls for terror. English-speaking members of the forum is hard to understand the current situation , but the most objectively it is illuminated on the local forums and blogs.

Melbourne_Militia
Putin Assasinated?

Surely this cant be true.....nothing on the news yet.

www.epicinter.net...

hah,

also a news article saying Schapelle has been sent back to Prison.

That would be breaking news on Channel 10 before Putins assassination, id say that whole sites bunk

MessageforAll
For some good news again;

Crimea to have referendum on status March 16 – Deputy PM

A referendum on the status of Crimea will be held March 16, the region’s deputy prime minister announced. Crimeans will be asked to decide if the autonomous republic stays part of Ukraine or joins Russia.
DETAILS TO FOLLOW

rt.com...

not join to Russia, only broad autonomy or separate state at this referendum.