An Alien March Madness: Is There Life in Space?

Teevee shows exist to sell adult diapers, Viagra and new cars. They need only hold the attention of the average 6th grader, and any amount of real knowledge or factual information relayed in them is purely coincidental.

Maybe there's some indy films out there that actually show something of merit, but if you want to 'cover' the UFO and ET possibilities without all the fakery, how exactly would you do it?

Maybe Ingo Swann was right and LA is crawling with real aliens, and we should just ask around until we find a few to interview. But then how would they prove they were actual ETs to you?

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Great topic as usual, Can't wait to watch the program even if it does turn out to be cheesy, it should still be fun entertainment
S&F

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The Government's official stance is that there are no Aliens visiting us and that most if not all sightings can be explained away.

Can you provide a link to such an "official stance?" I've never come across such a statement from the government.
And why capitalize aliens?

reply to post by Phage

Can you provide a link to such an "official stance?" I've never come across such a statement from the government.

Can you provide a link where the "official stance" is different?
I've never come across such a statement from the government. Do you?

Phage
Can you provide a link to such an "official stance?"

I think Project Bluebook's aka USAF official statement on UFOs is pretty cut and dry in the meaning and intent.

US Gov Archive

"As a result of these investigations, studies and experience gained from investigating UFO reports since 1948, the conclusions of Project Blue Book were:

1.) No UFO reported, investigated, and evaluated by the Air Force has ever given any indication of threat to our national security.

2.) There has been no evidence submitted to or discovered by the Air Force that sightings categorized as "unidentified" represent technological developments or principles beyond the range of present day scientific knowledge.

3.) There has been no evidence indicating the sightings categorized as "unidentified" are extraterrestrial vehicles.

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"The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race," wrote Phil Larson of the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy in a blog post on the White House website.

Source

Interesting read.

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I noted this report was dated from 2011. I cannot say I necessarily accept this answer. Sorry to say. I think its entirely possible that any info pertaining to ufo's and any contact whether it be past or present may be so totally compartmentalized, and secretive, totally hidden away, that it be entirely possible that even the President would not be given access to any ufo contact info. Lets face it the track record on this particular subject is none to good.

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That very well could be the case. I provided that article for our friend Phage because he asked if there was an official government stance on the issue. I think if the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy is allowed to make the statements they did, that makes it "official".

Check out Slayer's link as well. I haven't had a chance but I'll bet it's more in-depth than my little article.

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I'm not sure that the conclusions of Project Bluebook would be considered an official government stance but:
1) No statement that no aliens are visiting. Just a statement that Project BlueBook found no evidence of such.

2) No statement that most, if not all sightings can be explained away...aside from the fact that most are explainable.

reply to post by sheepslayer247

Interesting read.

Kind of boring actually.
But all it says is that there is no evidence that aliens are visiting Earth or that there is life anywhere but Earth. This is true but it is not the same as a statement that:

there are no Aliens visiting us and that most if not all sightings can be explained away.

So, from Project Bluebook and that White House statement, we see that the "government stance" would be more properly stated as; there is as yet no evidence of extraterrestrial life or visitation.

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Which ties into what I wrote further on...

" Fine, Then if what people saw the night of whenever, whenever, was simply swamp gas/weather balloons/Venus etc etc then why is it when the documents related to such and such 'explainable event' secured under the freedom of information act arrives with anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 or more of it blacked out for 'National Security' reasons if the sighting could easily be explained away and had nothing to do with any secret military aircraft/installation? "

Critiquing the wording in a sentence or two out of the body of the whole without acknowledging the written piece's overall intent is a bad way to fly in my opinion.

No?

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Kind of boring actually.

I apologize. Next time I will make sure my links are accompanied by a rock and roll pyrotechnic light show with backup dancers and a wet bar to make sure you are entertained properly.

I kid.....I kid

we see that the "government stance" would be more properly stated as; there is as yet no evidence of extraterrestrial life or visitation.

Which would imply that the statement "there are no Aliens visiting us and that most if not all sightings can be explained away" would therefore have to be correct. Correct?

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Unless interstellar travel becomes so commonplace that the average alien can explore where ever they want. They would have the power to buy a craft and power it up just like we do a car and just as cheap. That type of power within the reach of a large population makes an accidental visit almost inevitable. It would also mean that any one of them visiting us could wipe us out on a whim.

Hi datasdream, I have seen this position before and it always makes me think about our own limitations, against the backdrop of the entire universe, in the sense that, imho, our imagination, as wonderful and complex as it is, may not even begin to cover the possibilities of other advanced lifeforms and their capabilities. They could have modes of transportation that we have not even thought of. They could have reasons for visiting us that we have not considered, perhaps. I guess in a speculative fashion, I feel the ceiling for possibility is higher than we may know (of), which leaves things wide open.
I always think of the STNG Traveler episodes, traveling with thought alone. WHo needs advanced propulsion and fuel?

I also appreciate the squirrels in the backyard analysis, in that we are so insignificant that why would advanced ets visit us? We don't try and communicate with the squirrels in our back yards.

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S & F I had to watch your presented videos, and I don't watch television or these programs, but Ancient Aliens does make one think.

My personal opinion on it, is that we'll never know for sure. The only spin I could give to any UFO discussion is religious. God Himself used a vehicle in Ezekiel for His Throne to connect with mankind. Hindus have Vimana, allegedly piloted by Gods. The universe is huge, certainly there must be other beings out there. And just as there are good and bad humans, they also must be the same.

I will offer up this video Alien Contact - The Message (You have to see it for yourself)
At the 20:00 mark Dr. Nassim Haramein does a presentation on newly discovered Mayan Artifacts which are very, very interesting. Then coding at the end. The beginning is important too.


Also, view The Gods Of Eden William Bramley Part 1 of 3

reply to post by sheepslayer247

Which would imply that the statement "there are no Aliens visiting us and that most if not all sightings can be explained away" would therefore have to be correct. Correct?

Incorrect. A statement of a lack of evidence is not the same as a statement of non-existence.

There was no available evidence for the existence of black holes until 1970. Their existence (and non-existence) had been discussed for decades prior.

I guess as this comes from the White House and is an official response to the We the People UFO disclosure petitions it counts as an official response.
They're not saying they don't exist just they have no evidence to believe ET are coming here ...but that's what you'd expect.

The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye

Many have also noted, however, that the odds of us making contact with any of them—especially any intelligent ones—are extremely small, given the distances involved. But that's all statistics and speculation. The fact is we have no credible evidence of extraterrestrial presence here on Earth.

Official White House Response to formally acknowledge an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race - Disclosure

Phage
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Which would imply that the statement "there are no Aliens visiting us and that most if not all sightings can be explained away" would therefore have to be correct. Correct?

Incorrect. A statement of a lack of evidence is not the same as a statement of non-existence.

There was no available evidence for the existence of black holes until 1970. Their existence (and non-existence) had been discussed for decades prior.

edit on 3/1/2014 by Phage because: (no reason given)

I don't believe anyone made the statement that they do not exist. It was simply stated "there are no Aliens visiting us and that most if not all sightings can be explained away" and that statement could be made due to a lack of evidence....as you stated.

Let's put it all together: "there are no Aliens visiting us and that most if not all sightings can be explained away" because "there is as yet no evidence of extraterrestrial life or visitation".

But existence/non-existence has nothing to do with this.

I'll be heading out for the evening.
Just wanted to thank everybody who have participated thus far, enjoy your weekend

reply to post by SLAYER69

You see, for me. I never understood those who are steadfast against the possibility of ET and visitations based on their strict 'Scientific reasoning' meanwhile, here we have many of the greatest minds of our generation saying 'Yeah, they could be out there and it's possible'

Wonderfully put, one possible answer is fear. When I hear people respond that there are or can not be aliens, we are it, I hear 'I am afraid".

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maybe that's why there's been such a lack of response to this thread ?

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