I want to start this by saying anyone who tries to condemn me to hell, or anyone who tells a Christian they are deluded etc I urge everyone to simply
ignore them because I will deem that off-topic. I want a nice clean debate, with some intellectual input. Also anyone who quotes the Bible to disprove
my theory that the Bible is an unreliable source is just being oxymoronic.
Now I'm sure this subject has been done to death, but I would like to put my own spin on the old Jesus is a Sun God argument.
I have seen many people use it as proof for Jesus being a myth, for arguments sake on this thread, I would like everyone to assume that Jesus did
exist. What I am trying to debate here is not the invention of Jesus, but the manipulation of the Messiah's story.
My theory here is that, considering Jesus as being real, the story of Jesus has been used to convert people to one religion for nearly 2000 years. It
is my belief that whilst you (being a Roman Leader) have ultimate power over a vast area of land, especially all the area's where the Romans had an
iron foothold, you are free to deal with information and people however you see fit.
Now it's not a ridiculous notion to suggest that during this age of total dominance, the Roman Empire used information to control the population (much
like what is done today I might add). I will also add that this was not a literate time in history, alterations to the bible could easily go
I believe the Roman Empire faced a problem, Christianity was snowballing, the Roman Gods were becoming obsolete, and the stranglehold they had over
the area was diminishing. Christian men and women did not want to be told what to do by men who worshipped completely different gods, it would be like
a Muslim leader telling Jews what they can and cannot do. Something had to be done, they could not stop people being Christian but they could convince
other Romans to accept Christianity.
The obvious instigator of this would of course be Constantine.
The Bibles Un-Godly Origins
Emperor Constantine, who was Roman Emperor from 306 CE until his death in 337 CE, used what motivates many to action - MONEY! He offered the
various Church leaders money to agree upon a single canon that would be used by all Christians as the word of God. The Church leaders gathered
together at the Council of Nicaea and voted the "word of God" into existence. (I wish to thank Brian Show for pointing out in his rebuttal to this
article that the final version of the Christian Bible was not voted on at the Council of Nicaea, per se. The Church leaders didn't finish editing the
"holy" scriptures until the Council of Trent when the Catholic Church pronounced the Canon closed. However, it seems the real approving editor of the
Bible was not God but Constantine! This fact is revealed in the second counter-rebuttal to Brian Show's first rebuttal to this article. This
counter-rebuttal makes the following important statement and backs it up with FACTS - "Therefore, one can easily argue that the first Christian Bible
was commissioned, paid for, inspected and approved by a pagan emperor for church use."
Constantine managed to unite all of Rome under his rule, because he was the first emperor who advocated religious freedom. Before him, Christians were
set on fire and used as 'human torches', especially by Emperor Nero, who would use burning Christians as 'decoration' to light up his gardens.
There is a price to pay for allowing religious freedom, debate and division within your society. Constantine was faced with a problem, he needed to
convert his fellow Romans to Christianity and try and spread this as the one true religion. How do you achieve this though? How do you convince people
that your religion is the one true religion? Easy, show them that your religion is simply an advanced version of their own.
One of the biggest cults of Roman religion was a cult know as 'Sol Invictus
' and funnily enough,
they became extinct with Constantine's reign. These were Sun-God worshipping Romans, they worshipped Mirthras, who has many similarities in his story
to Jesus's, it isn't far fetched to suggest that to convert the followers of Sol Invictus Constantine suggested that Jesus was Mithras, then provided
his altered Bible as proof. This would be a big step in unifying all the religions under his banner and what I believe to be a major part in his
success as Emperor.
The cult of Sol was not the only people Constantine had to convince, he also had the Egyptian's who needed to be unified. Which we can see in the vast
similarities between Jesus and 'Horus', a god who was the outcome of a virgin birth and has a similar story to Jesus.
Now I also want to just show you how religions have changed to conform with powerful rulers views. The story of King Henry VIII, which is very well
known (across England at least), about a King who wanted a Son to carry on his legacy. When his wife would not produce a son, he wanted a divorce.
Being a Catholic country this was blasphemy, marriage was sacred! So King Henry was left with two choices, 'suck it up' and not have a Son, or form
his own church and re-create his own Bible then force everyone in the country to convert to his new version of Christianity. Being a noble leader, he
obviously did the latter and formed a new church.
So it is not impossible, in fact, it is rather probable that the Bible had been used in similar ways in the past. Even if you do not believe the role
Constantine may have played, other leaders over the past 2000 years will most likely have tinkered with it.
This is clearly evident in just how many variations of the Bible exist today, there are recorded around 150,000 different types of Christian Bible,
all because of translations, mis-translations and alterations to better suit society or a leader.
My message here is not to de-bunk Christianity, my message is that you should not devote your life to an unreliable source, that was written by MEN.
Not just any kind of man but POWERFUL MEN.
Give yourself to God, do good, pray and worship God. However, I urge my Christian brothers and sisters to do so in their own way. Worship God in a way
that you have discovered through your own experiences with the Divine and not through a book that we all know is likely not the word of Jesus or
I will re-iterate, all abusiveness should be simply ignored, no retorts and no explaining why they were wrong, just don't even respond and keep it
friendly. Apart form that I welcome all input into this debate.
Jesus Christ in comparative mythology
Astrology in the Bible
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