Ok - I dusted off the old clerical skills and here ya go...
Cool that you got to talk to Stanton Friedman - I know the technical problems are a
pain to deal with!! There were a couple of words I couldn't get, but the conversation is 99.9% here...
Also, the sixth reason for the cover up? Does anyone know?? Thanks! (This is stuff he talks about a bunch - I'm sure someone here knows...I know
I've heard it before...)
(And: reply to post by Alundra
Stanton Friedman on Don’t Tread on Me Media
Josh: So why does it seem that other countries are at least willing to hint at the existence of aliens and our country just does not?
SF: Well… No country has really given out ALL they have… I’ll give you six reasons for the cover up for everybody:
(1.) First you want to figure out how the darn things work. They make wonderful weapons delivery and defense systems – we spent an awful lot of
money on that. Stealth aircraft cost 10 billion dollars, you know, to develop, and we have records. So, Rule Number One for security is that you
can’t tell your friends without telling your enemies. They read the newspapers, (and) listen to the radio as well.
SF: And so that’s the first thing.
(2.) The second problem is the other side of the same coin: What if somebody else figures out how they work before we do? How do you defend against
them? You don’t want them to know we know they know. Weapon, counter weapon, counter-counter weapon, you know we’ve been playing this game for a
SF: Bigger, bigger stronger shields, you know.
(3.) The third problem is suppose there was an announcement tomorrow, by two highly trusted individuals - my favorite odd couple, if you will, is the
Queen and the Pope – what if they came out with an announcement saying ‘We have it on good authority that our planet’s being visited by Extra
Terrestrial space craft, and they are neutral.” What would happen? Well church attendance would go up, mental hospital admissions would go up, the
stock market would go down, and I believe, after over 700 college lectures, that it would be a real push amongst the younger generation for a new view
of ourselves, instead of as Americans, Canadians, Greeks, Peruvians, whatever, as Earthlings. Everybody in power wants to stay in power. You know,
who speaks for the planet?
(4.) The fourth reason is people say, “Look, Stan, if they are coming here and we’re not going there, that means they’re more advanced than we
are, right?” and I say “Yes…” “Well, soon there’ll be new methods of energy production. There goes the oil business. Ground and air
transport – there goes the car and plane business…” But that’s the price of progress.
(5.) The fifth reason, between 1951 and 56, there were 200 fatal military aircraft crashes in the United States. Five of the pilots were pilots who
had over a hundred missions in Korea, where the Russians – the MiGs – were trying to shoot them down, so they had to be pretty decent pilots.
They come back to the United States – no MiGs – and they fatally crash. The families were not told anything, you know, “Sorry, they crashed in
the water, no bodies recovered…Sorry about that!” I am not in favor of putting everything out on the table…as a (?) I worked under security for
14 years, and there is a classified aspect here…
Josh: Stanton, if I can stop you there for a second, can we just switch to a phone call conversation for a second because someone keeps on jamming
our signal, our internet signal, and you keep on getting cut out – I can’t hear you very well…I just look like an idiot!
--- (no sixth thing) ---
Josh: Do you think that there are groups of aliens that work with our government, Top Secret?
SF: Well, frankly, I don’t know, because if it is going on it is Top Secret, and nobody’s telling me. I don’t have a clearance or a
SF: And, you know, there’ve been all kinds of stories about Area 51 and other places, and a lot of it’s mythology, frankly. What I would like to
see, would be an announcement that says, “Look, we’ve got evidence – the planet’s being visited – it has all kinds of implications, we’re
going to have a number of International Conferences, at which these subjects will be discussed.” Something we tend to forget, the military budget
on this planet, this year, will be approximately a trillion dollars. And thousands of children die every single day of preventable diseases and
SF: From an alien viewpoint, we’re a primitive society, whose major activity is tribal warfares.
Josh: So, why are you against the SETI program?
SF: SETI – S – E – T – I, supposed to stand for “Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.” Unfortunately, I think a better
identification for what the letters stand for is “Silly Effort to Investigate.” S-E-T-I. It’s not based on science, it’s based on wishful
thinking. I mean, lets face it, the first long distance radio signal on planet Earth was transmitted in 1901, and aliens are stuck at that level of
technology? That’s ridiculous!
SF: One of the big Astronomers, Dr. Tyson from Hayden, says “The proof that the Government can’t keep secrets is how much we know about President
Clinton’s genitalia.” You know, ha ha ha. Totally irrelevant, of course. Dr. (??) said “There might be somebody as close as a thousand light
years, and when we make contact, they’ll help us solve our problems.”
“Hey out there, we need some help!” You get an answer back, it takes a thousand years to go [out] another thousand to come back – 2000 years
– “What can we do for you, guys?”
I mean, it makes no sense.
FOUR BASIC RULES FOR THE DEBUNKERS
1. Don’t bother me with the facts, my mind is made up.
2. What the public doesn’t know, I’m not going to tell them.
3. If you can’t attack the data, attack the people – its easier and nobody will know the difference. And…
4. Do your research by proclamation. Investigation is too much trouble anyway.
Josh: So that was that, TV – my mind is blown! I’m really stoked we got to talk to Stanton Friedman, a crazy crazy smart person… [to
edit on 6-2-2014 by AboveBoard because: adding stuff...