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I never said they were.
But Rosicrucians founded the first Grand Lodge, right?
Regardless, all these mentioned Fraternities have the same esoteric roots.
The term "Aryan" was used WAY before the Zionist Nazis(yes, Hitler was turned to evil by the very force he was trying to fight in the beginning).
Aryan means something like "Noble".
It is a termed used in all schools of Buddhism.
See H.H. The Dalai Lama's "The Four Noble Truths" for a reference to this.
In Buddhism, Gnosis and Theosophy, "Aryan" is not in reference to only pale skinned people(as it is by the idiotic Nazis).
Those "dark skinned Caucasians" you mention, are Nilotic AEthiopians.
The Merotic dark skinned AEthiopians are generally found in sub-Saharan Africa.
Neither are "Caucasian".
Anyway, let's look and see how "racist" is the Gnostic source that I've been citing:
From Thread: Pentagrams in lodges? Eastern Star?
Posted by Tamahu, on August 3, 2006 at 16:57 GMTOriginally posted by Byrd
Some comments
You might want to recheck that source of yours. The Rosicrucians weren't Masons and while many founding fathers were Masons, they weren't Rosicrucians.
Some comments
Originally posted by Tamahu
I'm under the impression, at this point, that the Rosicrucian White Lodge had intended to found a positive Philosophical Empire, or "New Atlantis" if you will, on the American continent; and that the Black Lodge stuck it's dirty hands in it right from the beginning, and thus all the slavery and genocide involved in the founding of America.
I'm under the impression, at this point, that the Rosicrucian White Lodge had intended to found a positive Philosophical Empire, or "New Atlantis" if you will, on the American continent; and that the Black Lodge stuck it's dirty hands in it right from the beginning, and thus all the slavery and genocide involved in the founding of America.
You might want to recheck that source of yours. The Rosicrucians weren't Masons and while many founding fathers were Masons, they weren't Rosicrucians.
I never said they were.
But Rosicrucians founded the first Grand Lodge, right?
Regardless, all these mentioned Fraternities have the same esoteric roots.
Race (as everyone will point out to you) is actually a political term. There are dark-skinned Caucasians (some with nearly black skin... they
live in India). The notion of an "Aryan" race (and multiple branches) is something promoted by the very old racist Nazis.
The term "Aryan" was used WAY before the Zionist Nazis(yes, Hitler was turned to evil by the very force he was trying to fight in the beginning).
Aryan means something like "Noble".
It is a termed used in all schools of Buddhism.
See H.H. The Dalai Lama's "The Four Noble Truths" for a reference to this.
In Buddhism, Gnosis and Theosophy, "Aryan" is not in reference to only pale skinned people(as it is by the idiotic Nazis).
Those "dark skinned Caucasians" you mention, are Nilotic AEthiopians.
The Merotic dark skinned AEthiopians are generally found in sub-Saharan Africa.
Neither are "Caucasian".
Anyway, let's look and see how "racist" is the Gnostic source that I've been citing:
"The Omeyocan is the Lord of the Night, the Black Tezcatlipoca who when denying himself, bursts into light and the universe (that fecundates,
that drives Quetzalcoatl, the Solar Logos) is born.
"The First Root Race was gigantic and black in color, however it was very civilized. This was an androgynous Root Race, asexual, semi-physical, and semi-ethereal. These Individuals could reduce their size to the normal size of a person of this present Aryan Root Race. The rituals and wisdom of the First Root Race were marvelous. Temples and constructions were portentous. Barbarism did not exist in that epoch. Such a Divine Root Race was devoured by the Tigers of Wisdom. The regent of that Root Race was the Aztec God Tezcatlipoca. Each individual was a true Master of Wisdom. Reproduction was performed by the fissiparous act; this is similar to the reproduction system of the organic cells by cellular division. This is how the organism of the Father-Mother was divided into two. The androgynous child suspended itself for a while from the Father-Mother. The First Root Race lived on the Sacred Island situated on the polar cap of the North. Such an Island still exists, but in Jinn State."
- Samael Aun Weor
"The First Root Race was gigantic and black in color, however it was very civilized. This was an androgynous Root Race, asexual, semi-physical, and semi-ethereal. These Individuals could reduce their size to the normal size of a person of this present Aryan Root Race. The rituals and wisdom of the First Root Race were marvelous. Temples and constructions were portentous. Barbarism did not exist in that epoch. Such a Divine Root Race was devoured by the Tigers of Wisdom. The regent of that Root Race was the Aztec God Tezcatlipoca. Each individual was a true Master of Wisdom. Reproduction was performed by the fissiparous act; this is similar to the reproduction system of the organic cells by cellular division. This is how the organism of the Father-Mother was divided into two. The androgynous child suspended itself for a while from the Father-Mother. The First Root Race lived on the Sacred Island situated on the polar cap of the North. Such an Island still exists, but in Jinn State."
- Samael Aun Weor
The text you present is interesting only for its late 1800's racist views and the rather quaint-sounding view of history (they didn't know
much about those civilizations back then.) Yes, I know Weir is late 20th century, but his awareness of world history is apparently material he has
"channeled" because it's so far off the mark. He claims, for instance, that an "ancient Buddhist temple of Lhasa" has a "Chaldean manuscript"
written "2000 years before Christ that talks about the "Baal star."
Baal was a Canaanite deity (sometimes called Baal Amon), Buddhism was started about 600 BC in India (not in Canaan or Chaldea) and the city of Lhasa was founded in around 700 BC or so and has a number of temples.
And there's no such manuscript.
Baal was a Canaanite deity (sometimes called Baal Amon), Buddhism was started about 600 BC in India (not in Canaan or Chaldea) and the city of Lhasa was founded in around 700 BC or so and has a number of temples.
And there's no such manuscript.
Please quit assuming things.
First of all, Gnosis is totally against "channeling" and all that other "New Age" nonsense.
Gautama Shakyamuni was not the first Buddha.
That is a Profane view of Buddhism.
The Bons of Tibet traced their lineage to Ancient Buddha's, way before Padmasambhava came from India and reintegrated the Bon religion with that of Shakyamuni's doctrine.
Again, check Godfrey Higgin's "Anacalypsis".
He was a British FreeMason and a Druid, and wrote that the StoneHenge were built by:
TWO ANCIENT ETHIOPIAS—GREAT BLACK NATION IN ASIA—THE BUDDHA OF INDIA A NEGRO—THE ARABIANS WERE CU#ES—SHEPHERD KINGS—HINDOOS AND
EGYPTIANS SIMILAR—SYRIA PEOPLED FROM INDIA
Page 51
… but I shall, in the course of this work, produce a number of extraordinary facts, which will be quite sufficient to prove, that a black race, in very early times, had more influence over the affairs of the world than has been lately suspected; and I think I shall shew, by some striking circumstances yet existing, that the effects of this influence have not entirely passed away.
It was the opinion of Sir William Jones, that a great nation of Blacks* formely possessed the dominion of Asia, and held the seat of empire at Sidon. These must have been the people called by Mr. Maurice Cu#es or Cuthites, described in Genesis; and the opinion that they were Blacks is corroborated by the translators of the Pentateuch, called the Seventy, constantly rendering the word Cush by Ethiopia. …
Of this nation we have no account; but it must have flourished after the deluge. … If I succeed in collecting a sufficient number to carry conviction to an impartial mind, the empire must be allowed to have existed.
The religion of Buddha, of India, is well known to have been very ancient. In the most ancient temples scattered throughout Asia, where his worship is yet continued, he is found black as jet, with the flat face, thick lips, and curly hair of the Negro. Several statues of him may be met with the East-India Company. There are two exemplars of him brooding on the face of the deep, upon a coiled serpent. To what time are we to allot this Negro ? He will be proved to have been prior to Cristna. He must have been prior to or contemporaneous with the black empire, supposed by Sir William Jones to have flourished at Sidon. The religion of this Negro God is found, by the ruins of his temples and other circumstances, to have been spread over an immense extent of country, even to the remotest parts of Britain, and to have been professed by devotees inconceivably numerous. …
Page 51
… but I shall, in the course of this work, produce a number of extraordinary facts, which will be quite sufficient to prove, that a black race, in very early times, had more influence over the affairs of the world than has been lately suspected; and I think I shall shew, by some striking circumstances yet existing, that the effects of this influence have not entirely passed away.
It was the opinion of Sir William Jones, that a great nation of Blacks* formely possessed the dominion of Asia, and held the seat of empire at Sidon. These must have been the people called by Mr. Maurice Cu#es or Cuthites, described in Genesis; and the opinion that they were Blacks is corroborated by the translators of the Pentateuch, called the Seventy, constantly rendering the word Cush by Ethiopia. …
Of this nation we have no account; but it must have flourished after the deluge. … If I succeed in collecting a sufficient number to carry conviction to an impartial mind, the empire must be allowed to have existed.
The religion of Buddha, of India, is well known to have been very ancient. In the most ancient temples scattered throughout Asia, where his worship is yet continued, he is found black as jet, with the flat face, thick lips, and curly hair of the Negro. Several statues of him may be met with the East-India Company. There are two exemplars of him brooding on the face of the deep, upon a coiled serpent. To what time are we to allot this Negro ? He will be proved to have been prior to Cristna. He must have been prior to or contemporaneous with the black empire, supposed by Sir William Jones to have flourished at Sidon. The religion of this Negro God is found, by the ruins of his temples and other circumstances, to have been spread over an immense extent of country, even to the remotest parts of Britain, and to have been professed by devotees inconceivably numerous. …
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BOOK I - CHAPTER IV
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…In my Essay on The Celtic Druids, I have shewn, that a great nation called Celtæ, of whom the Druids were the priests, spread themselves almost over the whole earth, and are to be traced in their rude gigantic monuments from India to the extremities of Britain. Who these can have been but the early individuals of the black nation of whom we have been treating I know not, and in this opinion I am not singular. The learned Maurice says, "Cuthites, i. e. Celts, built the great temples in India and Britain, and excavated the caves of the former."* And the learned Mathematician, Reuben Burrow, has no hesitation in pronouncing Stonehenge to be a temple of the black, curly-headed Buddha.
Page 59
…In my Essay on The Celtic Druids, I have shewn, that a great nation called Celtæ, of whom the Druids were the priests, spread themselves almost over the whole earth, and are to be traced in their rude gigantic monuments from India to the extremities of Britain. Who these can have been but the early individuals of the black nation of whom we have been treating I know not, and in this opinion I am not singular. The learned Maurice says, "Cuthites, i. e. Celts, built the great temples in India and Britain, and excavated the caves of the former."* And the learned Mathematician, Reuben Burrow, has no hesitation in pronouncing Stonehenge to be a temple of the black, curly-headed Buddha.
[edit on 3-8-2006 by Tamahu]
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